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Trans-milk

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #1

    The same clowns that insist on "Non-GMO," "no-antibiotic" food are now claiming that hormone-induced lactation in an person with a Y chromosome is just as good as...dare I say, mother's milk.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • KlausK Offline
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      Klaus
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      Well, is it just as good? Or not?

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        It doesn’t sound completely implausible to me. I mean, men are born with some of the machinery. It’s not implausible to me that hormones could make up the entire difference.

        Of course it’s an empirical question but it is not on its face absurd.

        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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        • KlausK Offline
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          Klaus
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          Exactly.

          But you'd have to double check the source since too many people want the answer to align with their world view.

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          • AxtremusA Offline
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            Axtremus
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            I propose this experiment:

            Use hormone to make bulls lactate, then compare bull milk with cow milk for nutritional difference.

            Of course, for comprehensiveness, the comparison should include milk from hormone injected cows as well as that from cows that have not received any artificial hormone.

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            • KlausK Klaus

              Well, is it just as good? Or not?

              George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #6

              @Klaus said in Trans-milk:

              Well, is it just as good? Or not?


              For a person born male to breastfeed, they must develop milk-producing glands by taking the hormone progestin.

              A drug is required to lactate, such as domperidone, which is often prescribed to women struggling to breastfeed, and helps to stimulate the production of prolactin – a separate hormone that tells the body to produce milk.

              Domperidone, also known by the brand name Motilum, was not intended for this, but is prescribed off-label by doctors, despite the manufacturer, Janssen, itself recommending against it because of possible side effects to a baby’s heart.

              The patient leaflet for Motilium says: “Small amounts have been detected in breastmilk. Motilium may cause unwanted side effects affecting the heart in a breastfed baby. [It] should be used during breastfeeding only if your physician considers this clearly necessary.”

              USHT believes the practice is safe, adding that hospital staff “advise any parent who is taking medication (for whatever reason) to seek advice on the possibility of that medication being transferred to the baby through breastfeeding and also the health implications for the baby”.


              IOW, it's probably safe, right? Better you not be denied the selfish need to "breast" feed your infant despite the potential for risk to the baby.

              THere's also an increased risk of cardiac arrhythmias in people taking it. Not sure if that risk extends to the infant, however.

              Wiki:

              Domperidone, by acting as an anti-dopaminergic agent, results in increased prolactin secretion, and thus promotes lactation as a galactogogue. Domperidone moderately increases the volume of expressed breast milk in mothers of preterm babies where breast milk expression is inadequate, and appears to be safe for short-term use for this purpose.[30][31][32] In the United States, domperidone is not approved for this use.

              I assume that, once you stop the drug, lactation ceases. But, what can possibly go wrong when you're taking a dopamine inhibitor that's probably transmitted to the infant? Supposedly, it's a small amount - but that's in short-term usage.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                LuFins Dad
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                It’s been known for years that the hormones used do transfer to the breast milk. The question has been whether it has a negative health effect on the child. That’s not been decided. Though most Doula nurses and experts recommend that regular women not use the hormone to help when they have problems nursing.

                I’d have less of an issue with it if many of these guys haven’t talked about getting aroused by the experience.

                The Brad

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  jon-nyc
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                  #8

                  Every time I breastfeed I get aroused. Is that a problem?

                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    Mik
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                    A fetish can become a problem, yes. In your case, likely one of many.

                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Every time I breastfeed I get aroused. Is that a problem?

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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      @jon-nyc said in Trans-milk:

                      Every time I breastfeed I get aroused. Is that a problem?

                      Women's or men's breasts?

                      I was only joking

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        Mik
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        Just another tidbit to shore up the fantasy being sold to our children.

                        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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