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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    NY Attorney General sues NRA to force its closure due to history of fraud and misuse of funds, NRA sues back saying its political.

    Seems like they’re both right?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/06/us/ny-nra-lawsuit-letitia-james.html

    But I’m not sure how that'll shake out in the courts. If you see a good, not overly ideological legal analysis, post it here.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      Over six and a half years, the suit said, a personal travel consultant for Mr. LaPierre was paid $13.5 million, largely on no-bid contracts. Private flights were chartered for Mr. LaPierre’s wife and his niece. He took frequent trips to the Bahamas on the N.R.A.’s dime, often decamping to a 108-foot yacht called “Illusions” that was owned by an N.R.A. contractor and included a chef and four staterooms. He lavished gifts from Neiman Marcus and Bergdorf Goodman on his inner circle, and once put his niece up at a Four Seasons hotel for eight nights at a cost of more than $12,000, according to the complaint.

      The lawsuit accuses the N.R.A. and the executives of “violating numerous state and federal laws” by enriching themselves, as well as their friends, families and allies, and taking improper actions that cost the organization $64 million over three years. Ms. James is also seeking to oust Mr. LaPierre and Mr. Frazer, and to bar all four men from serving on nonprofit boards in New York again.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • MikM Offline
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        It is political. On the other hand, if you know you are a political target you might want to conduct yourself accordingly. Avoid all appearance...

        We will see how all this shakes out.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          #4

          Yeah, it’s political. And yeah, it’s a fraudulent organization that grossly misuses funds. This isn’t a question of appearances.

          Like I said, they’re both right.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            Before I make that judgement I'd like to see details. I admit that is how it appears, but that does not mean there is nothing else in play. To conduct themselves that way would be very foolish, but it could be immense hubris and a sense of untouchability.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              This just in:

              https://www.theonion.com/cash-strapped-nra-forced-to-shoot-dozens-of-redundant-e-1828164543

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                😆

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  Much like the current fishing expedition on Trump's tax returns, this is an ill wind that does not bode well for anybody. A justice department of any kind, should be as apolitical as possible.

                  The lady with the blindfold and scales means less and less.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    An opinion...

                    https://stream.org/first-they-came-for-the-nra/

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      Much like the current fishing expedition on Trump's tax returns, this is an ill wind that does not bode well for anybody. A justice department of any kind, should be as apolitical as possible.

                      The lady with the blindfold and scales means less and less.

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                      @Jolly said in NY AG shoots for the kill:

                      Much like the current fishing expedition on Trump's tax returns, this is an ill wind that does not bode well for anybody. A justice department of any kind, should be as apolitical as possible.

                      The lady with the blindfold and scales means less and less.

                      I almost agree. The reason I voted against this lady in the primary, I mean besides a general desire to perpetuate the white patriarchy, was her explicit promise to go after political enemies.

                      Having said that, the NRA’s financial shenanigans have been so publicized by infighting and internecine lawsuits that to not investigate would be a political decision.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @Jolly said in NY AG shoots for the kill:

                        Much like the current fishing expedition on Trump's tax returns, this is an ill wind that does not bode well for anybody. A justice department of any kind, should be as apolitical as possible.

                        The lady with the blindfold and scales means less and less.

                        I almost agree. The reason I voted against this lady in the primary, I mean besides a general desire to perpetuate the white patriarchy, was her explicit promise to go after political enemies.

                        Having said that, the NRA’s financial shenanigans have been so publicized by infighting and internecine lawsuits that to not investigate would be a political decision.

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                        @jon-nyc said in NY AG shoots for the kill:

                        @Jolly said in NY AG shoots for the kill:

                        Much like the current fishing expedition on Trump's tax returns, this is an ill wind that does not bode well for anybody. A justice department of any kind, should be as apolitical as possible.

                        The lady with the blindfold and scales means less and less.

                        I almost agree. The reason I voted against this lady in the primary, I mean besides a general desire to perpetuate the white patriarchy, was her explicit promise to go after political enemies.

                        Having said that, the NRA’s financial shenanigans have been so publicized by infighting and internecine lawsuits that to not investigate would be a political decision.

                        The NRA is a mess. LaPierre was in the top spot too long and did what most men do, became too full of himself.

                        But it's a matter for the members, not the NY AG.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          No, they’ve crossed too many legal lines.

                          Take politics out of it altogether. If major donors were suing, say, the American Heart Association for fraud and misuse of funds, highlighting tens of millions of dollars of inappropriate payments, self-dealing, etc. any AG in the country who’s state it was in would investigate.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/08/the-decline-and-fall-of-the-national-rifle-association/

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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