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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    @Aqua-Letifer @George-K @Jolly

    The Hugo Awards just imploded. Turns out that the selection committee’s been putting their thumb on the scales on behalf of the Chinese government…

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/feb/15/authors-excluded-from-hugo-awards-over-china-concerns

    https://www.patreon.com/posts/98498779

    The Brad

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Should be the last time any of the committee members serve and the awards should never, ever, be held in China again.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • Doctor PhibesD Online
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        Doctor Phibes
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        This is pretty pathetic. It totally undermines the award.

        I have to say, the Chinese book The Three Body Problem that won in 2015 was an excellent novel. Hopefully that was a clean win.

        I was only joking

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          This is pretty pathetic. It totally undermines the award.

          I have to say, the Chinese book The Three Body Problem that won in 2015 was an excellent novel. Hopefully that was a clean win.

          George KG Offline
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          George K
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          @Doctor-Phibes said in More Unbelievable Than A Hugo Award Winning Sci-Fi Fantasy!:

          The Three Body Problem that won in 2015 was an excellent novel.

          Yes.

          Have you read the sequel?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K

            @Doctor-Phibes said in More Unbelievable Than A Hugo Award Winning Sci-Fi Fantasy!:

            The Three Body Problem that won in 2015 was an excellent novel.

            Yes.

            Have you read the sequel?

            Doctor PhibesD Online
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            @George-K said in More Unbelievable Than A Hugo Award Winning Sci-Fi Fantasy!:

            @Doctor-Phibes said in More Unbelievable Than A Hugo Award Winning Sci-Fi Fantasy!:

            The Three Body Problem that won in 2015 was an excellent novel.

            Yes.

            Have you read the sequel?

            I tried, but gave up half way through, I just ran out of energy. I'm going to try again once I'm done with the Dune saga.

            It's coming to Netflix soon, and there's a Chinese version on Amazon, I think. I watched a bit but got distracted by The Wire.

            I was only joking

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            • George KG Offline
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              The problem with The Three-Body Problem is one that I've found with so many so-called "trilogies."

              You read a 450 page book, and it ends on a cliffhanger. If you want the story, you're committed to the next 900 pages. I believe I've complained about this in the past.

              Look at the Dune books - each of them pretty much stands alone as a story, even though they build on the preceding books. Each is complete on its own.

              The same with the "Prefect" stories by Reynolds (which I'm re-reading). Read one, and, "Hey, what a great tale!" It leaves you wanting more, but doesn't REQUIRE more.

              But, looking forward to Three-Body on Netflix. March 21!

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                This is pretty pathetic. It totally undermines the award.

                I have to say, the Chinese book The Three Body Problem that won in 2015 was an excellent novel. Hopefully that was a clean win.

                Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                @Doctor-Phibes said in More Unbelievable Than A Hugo Award Winning Sci-Fi Fantasy!:

                This is pretty pathetic. It totally undermines the award.

                I have to say, the Chinese book The Three Body Problem that won in 2015 was an excellent novel. Hopefully that was a clean win.

                The 2023 winner was Nettle & Bone.
                2022's was A Desolation Called Peace.
                2021's was Network Effect.
                2020's was A Memory Called Empire.

                Yeah. Clean wins all around. 😄

                Please love yourself.

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in More Unbelievable Than A Hugo Award Winning Sci-Fi Fantasy!:

                  This is pretty pathetic. It totally undermines the award.

                  I have to say, the Chinese book The Three Body Problem that won in 2015 was an excellent novel. Hopefully that was a clean win.

                  The 2023 winner was Nettle & Bone.
                  2022's was A Desolation Called Peace.
                  2021's was Network Effect.
                  2020's was A Memory Called Empire.

                  Yeah. Clean wins all around. 😄

                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                  @Aqua-Letifer said in More Unbelievable Than A Hugo Award Winning Sci-Fi Fantasy!:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in More Unbelievable Than A Hugo Award Winning Sci-Fi Fantasy!:

                  This is pretty pathetic. It totally undermines the award.

                  I have to say, the Chinese book The Three Body Problem that won in 2015 was an excellent novel. Hopefully that was a clean win.

                  The 2023 winner was Nettle & Bone.
                  2022's was A Desolation Called Peace.
                  2021's was Network Effect.
                  2020's was A Memory Called Empire.

                  Yeah. Clean wins all around. 😄

                  Sorry, but I don’t particularly care for any science fiction and only a very little fantasy written by females. For the most part the themes are either heavy handed to the moral extremes, or the character motivations are mostly unrelatable to me. And quite a lot reads like fanfic.

                  The Brad

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                    Never got into (sci-fi) fantasy.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in More Unbelievable Than A Hugo Award Winning Sci-Fi Fantasy!:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in More Unbelievable Than A Hugo Award Winning Sci-Fi Fantasy!:

                      This is pretty pathetic. It totally undermines the award.

                      I have to say, the Chinese book The Three Body Problem that won in 2015 was an excellent novel. Hopefully that was a clean win.

                      The 2023 winner was Nettle & Bone.
                      2022's was A Desolation Called Peace.
                      2021's was Network Effect.
                      2020's was A Memory Called Empire.

                      Yeah. Clean wins all around. 😄

                      Sorry, but I don’t particularly care for any science fiction and only a very little fantasy written by females. For the most part the themes are either heavy handed to the moral extremes, or the character motivations are mostly unrelatable to me. And quite a lot reads like fanfic.

                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                      @LuFins-Dad said in More Unbelievable Than A Hugo Award Winning Sci-Fi Fantasy!:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in More Unbelievable Than A Hugo Award Winning Sci-Fi Fantasy!:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in More Unbelievable Than A Hugo Award Winning Sci-Fi Fantasy!:

                      This is pretty pathetic. It totally undermines the award.

                      I have to say, the Chinese book The Three Body Problem that won in 2015 was an excellent novel. Hopefully that was a clean win.

                      The 2023 winner was Nettle & Bone.
                      2022's was A Desolation Called Peace.
                      2021's was Network Effect.
                      2020's was A Memory Called Empire.

                      Yeah. Clean wins all around. 😄

                      Sorry, but I don’t particularly care for any science fiction and only a very little fantasy written by females.

                      I don't mind female authors. Le Guin was great and I like Patricia McKillip. And dude, c'mon. Dragonlance? Sure, it's dimestore stuff but for what it is, it's fantastic. As George Thorogood might say, "hamburgers, sure, but damn fine hamburgers." Their male characters have plenty of variety to go around and there's real, honest-to-God romance in the books. Good luck finding that today.

                      But you know what fucking sucks? L. Ron Hubbard "novels." Because they aren't novels, they're thinly disguised indoctrination missives.

                      You know what sci-fi and fantasy publishers love to promote right now? Thinly disguised indoctrination missives. It's not that female writers can't write anything else, it's that anything else gets remaindered if published at all.

                      It certainly doesn't win any Hugos.

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        For female writers (other than Le Guin of course) I've enjoyed some stuff by Connie Willis, and I loved Among Others by Welsh-Canadia author Jo Walton.

                        I really liked the Anciliary Justice series by Ann Leckie, even though it touched the dreaded gender-blinded issue.

                        I was only joking

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