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  • JollyJ Offline
    JollyJ Offline
    Jolly
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    #1

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mayorkas-impeachment-vote-house-representatives

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #2

      Theater. Nothing will come of it and it’ll die in the senate.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        At least this was more legit than Trump's.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • MikM Away
          MikM Away
          Mik
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          #4

          Still futile and continues a bad trend.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            #5

            Talk to the folks that started the trend.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              Talk to the folks that started the trend.

              Lends credence to the saying, “so when one dog pisses they all have to”.

              Elbows up!

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by Jolly
                #7

                Republicans have long had a reputation for being "nicer" than their opponents across the aisle. AFAIK, being nice has never benefited them legislatively.

                I talked the other day about the GOP becoming more blue collar. I think with the change, also comes a change in attitude. Or to quote Mr. Smith, Don't start nuthin', if you don't want nuthin' started.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  At least this was more legit than Trump's.

                  taiwan_girlT Offline
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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  @Jolly said in First since 1876:

                  At least this was more legit than Trump's.

                  Why is that? (I do not think that what President Trump did was an impeach crime, but I certainly don't see how the Secretary's is.)

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    @Jolly said in First since 1876:

                    At least this was more legit than Trump's.

                    Why is that? (I do not think that what President Trump did was an impeach crime, but I certainly don't see how the Secretary's is.)

                    JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    @taiwan_girl said in First since 1876:

                    @Jolly said in First since 1876:

                    At least this was more legit than Trump's.

                    Why is that? (I do not think that what President Trump did was an impeach crime, but I certainly don't see how the Secretary's is.)

                    It is the Secretary's job to secure the border. The border is in the worst shape, ever.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @taiwan_girl said in First since 1876:

                      @Jolly said in First since 1876:

                      At least this was more legit than Trump's.

                      Why is that? (I do not think that what President Trump did was an impeach crime, but I certainly don't see how the Secretary's is.)

                      It is the Secretary's job to secure the border. The border is in the worst shape, ever.

                      taiwan_girlT Offline
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                      taiwan_girl
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      @Jolly said in First since 1876:

                      @taiwan_girl said in First since 1876:

                      @Jolly said in First since 1876:

                      At least this was more legit than Trump's.

                      Why is that? (I do not think that what President Trump did was an impeach crime, but I certainly don't see how the Secretary's is.)

                      It is the Secretary's job to secure the border. The border is in the worst shape, ever.

                      If not doing your job is your criteria for impeachment, we should probably line up everybody in the US Congress also. LOL

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                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        @Jolly said in First since 1876:

                        @taiwan_girl said in First since 1876:

                        @Jolly said in First since 1876:

                        At least this was more legit than Trump's.

                        Why is that? (I do not think that what President Trump did was an impeach crime, but I certainly don't see how the Secretary's is.)

                        It is the Secretary's job to secure the border. The border is in the worst shape, ever.

                        If not doing your job is your criteria for impeachment, we should probably line up everybody in the US Congress also. LOL

                        JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
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                        #11

                        @taiwan_girl said in First since 1876:

                        @Jolly said in First since 1876:

                        @taiwan_girl said in First since 1876:

                        @Jolly said in First since 1876:

                        At least this was more legit than Trump's.

                        Why is that? (I do not think that what President Trump did was an impeach crime, but I certainly don't see how the Secretary's is.)

                        It is the Secretary's job to secure the border. The border is in the worst shape, ever.

                        If not doing your job is your criteria for impeachment, we should probably line up everybody in the US Congress also. LOL

                        There's not doing your job and there's not doing your job. I think anybody past mouth-breather IQ that has lived in America for a few months will tell you the border is a huge problem.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          taiwan_girl
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                          #12

                          The Constitution limits grounds of impeachment to "Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors",[2] but does not itself define "high crimes and misdemeanors".

                          So, if i understand you, the Secretary in charge of the border could have done what to solve the problem? What powers does he have or did he have?

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                          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                            The Constitution limits grounds of impeachment to "Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors",[2] but does not itself define "high crimes and misdemeanors".

                            So, if i understand you, the Secretary in charge of the border could have done what to solve the problem? What powers does he have or did he have?

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            Do we have border laws not being enforced?

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              taiwan_girl
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                              #14

                              I don't know. What are the border laws not being enforced?

                              Again, I don't think not doing your job is impeachable. How is that a high crime or misdemeanor? And if it is felt that this is impeachable, then it should be President Biden who is impeached, not the Minister of the Interior.

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #15

                                Educate yourself.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                  I don't know. What are the border laws not being enforced?

                                  Again, I don't think not doing your job is impeachable. How is that a high crime or misdemeanor? And if it is felt that this is impeachable, then it should be President Biden who is impeached, not the Minister of the Interior.

                                  George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  @taiwan_girl said in First since 1876:

                                  I don't think not doing your job is impeachable.

                                  What is the law?

                                  Is it being enforced?

                                  If not, is that a cause for firing someone impeachable?

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    George K
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                                    #17

                                    https://justthenews.com/government/security/hold-new-foia-documents-show-dhs-failed-track-migrant-flows-inside-country


                                    wly uncovered emails between Department of Homeland Security officials and journalists show the agency tasked with protecting U.S. border and domestic security admitted it is not tracking illegal immigrants after they were released from federal custody into the interior of the country.

                                    In the emails obtained by the watchdog group Protect the Public’s Trust in a Freedom of Information Act request, one DHS official told a Washington Post reporter off the record he could not say how many immigrants are settling in Northern states via border state busing programs because the agency does not track those released from their custody.

                                    “Are more people deciding to settle in DC/New York or, more recently, Chicago as a result of the program where they might have previously been inclined to remain in Texas or Arizona?” the reporter asked in a September 2022 email reviewed by Just the News.

                                    “Off the record, that’s hard for us to say because they’re getting on those buses after they’re already out of our custody,” the official answered.

                                    “That said, anecdotally including what I hear from other reporters, it does appear that word is spreading and they are looking for those buses for the free transportation. I’ve also heard many people are getting off along the way, so they’re using the buses for as long as it is convenient, but again, because they are out of our custody by then, it is hard for us to be able to answer that,” the official added.

                                    You can read the emails below:

                                    https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2024-02/2022-HQFO-01710-Records.pdf


                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      @taiwan_girl said in First since 1876:

                                      I don't think not doing your job is impeachable.

                                      What is the law?

                                      Is it being enforced?

                                      If not, is that a cause for firing someone impeachable?

                                      AxtremusA Away
                                      AxtremusA Away
                                      Axtremus
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                                      #18

                                      @George-K said in First since 1876:

                                      @taiwan_girl said in First since 1876:

                                      I don't think not doing your job is impeachable.

                                      What is the law?

                                      Is it being enforced?

                                      If not, is that a cause for firing someone impeachable?

                                      https://www.usa.gov/impeachment

                                      The Constitution gives Congress the power to impeach federal officials. An official can be impeached for treason, bribery, and “other high crimes and misdemeanors.”

                                      Does "not doing your job" or "not enforcing a law" per se passes for 'treason, bribery, and other “other high crimes and misdemeanors"'?

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                                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                        @George-K said in First since 1876:

                                        @taiwan_girl said in First since 1876:

                                        I don't think not doing your job is impeachable.

                                        What is the law?

                                        Is it being enforced?

                                        If not, is that a cause for firing someone impeachable?

                                        https://www.usa.gov/impeachment

                                        The Constitution gives Congress the power to impeach federal officials. An official can be impeached for treason, bribery, and “other high crimes and misdemeanors.”

                                        Does "not doing your job" or "not enforcing a law" per se passes for 'treason, bribery, and other “other high crimes and misdemeanors"'?

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                                        George K
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                                        @Axtremus said in First since 1876:

                                        Does "not doing your job" or "not enforcing a law" per se passes for 'reason, bribery, and other “other high crimes and misdemeanors"'?

                                        Good question.

                                        What is "misdemeanor" mean in a constitutional, not legal, sense. At the time of the framing of the Constitution, was there anything that was "legal" or "illegal?" Were there any laws?

                                        What was a "crime," either "low" or "high"?

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Rainman
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                                          #20

                                          This is all what TG said above as well.

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