Before we were fat
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Life expectancy at birth in 1930 was 58 for men and 62 for women.
so the idea that in the 30s, people were healthier doesnt really hold water.
@bachophile said in Before we were fat:
Life expectancy at birth in 1930 was 58 for men and 62 for women.
so the idea that in the 30s, people were healthier doesnt really hold water.
Good point.
Now, imagine if people today looked like that and had the advantages of 100 years of medicine.
Oh, and "caring what you looked like" might sound silly, but there's something to be said for self-esteem.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@bachophile said in Before we were fat:
Life expectancy at birth in 1930 was 58 for men and 62 for women.
so the idea that in the 30s, people were healthier doesnt really hold water.
Good point.
Now, imagine if people today looked like that and had the advantages of 100 years of medicine.
Oh, and "caring what you looked like" might sound silly, but there's something to be said for self-esteem.
@George-K said in Before we were fat:
Now, imagine if people today looked like that and had the advantages of 100 years of medicine.
They'd be French?
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That was the year my mum was born. As a kid she'd walk down the road to go watch the blacksmith at work.
Different world.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Before we were fat:
Different world.
Also a small detail about life expectancy in the 1920s.
Fleming discovered penicillin in about 1928. Sulfa came in the 1930s.
The absence of antibiotics might have a bit to do with longevity.
Look at the prevalence of infectious diseases in 1900 vs 2010.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@bachophile said in Before we were fat:
Life expectancy at birth in 1930 was 58 for men and 62 for women.
so the idea that in the 30s, people were healthier doesnt really hold water.
Good point.
Now, imagine if people today looked like that and had the advantages of 100 years of medicine.
Oh, and "caring what you looked like" might sound silly, but there's something to be said for self-esteem.
@George-K said in Before we were fat:
Oh, and "caring what you looked like" might sound silly, but there's something to be said for self-esteem.
Does that say anything about self-esteem, or merely a desire for external validation? People with extensive tattoos and piercings, and people who have undergone cosmetic plastic surgeries certainly care a lot about what they look like, to the point of repeatedly enduring pain to achieve their looks. What does that tell you about self-esteem?
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Life expectancy at birth in 1930 was 58 for men and 62 for women.
so the idea that in the 30s, people were healthier doesnt really hold water.
@bachophile said in Before we were fat:
Life expectancy at birth in 1930 was 58 for men and 62 for women.
People born in 1930 had to make it through WW II, although they were a little too young to fight.
Many people born in this century had all the advantages of Obamacare.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Before we were fat:
Different world.
Also a small detail about life expectancy in the 1920s.
Fleming discovered penicillin in about 1928. Sulfa came in the 1930s.
The absence of antibiotics might have a bit to do with longevity.
Look at the prevalence of infectious diseases in 1900 vs 2010.
@George-K said in Before we were fat:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Before we were fat:
Different world.
Also a small detail about life expectancy in the 1920s.
Fleming discovered penicillin in about 1928. Sulfa came in the 1930s.
The absence of antibiotics might have a bit to do with longevity.
Look at the prevalence of infectious diseases in 1900 vs 2010.
I was going to make this point. It’s not like people died earlier because they had more chronic illnesses. They mostly died of acute conditions we can treat or prevent today.
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@bachophile said in Before we were fat:
Life expectancy at birth in 1930 was 58 for men and 62 for women.
so the idea that in the 30s, people were healthier doesnt really hold water.
Good point.
Now, imagine if people today looked like that and had the advantages of 100 years of medicine.
Oh, and "caring what you looked like" might sound silly, but there's something to be said for self-esteem.
@George-K said in Before we were fat:
Oh, and "caring what you looked like" might sound silly, but there's something to be said for self-esteem.
Agree. Wise words.
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The widespread smoking also likely shortened lifespans (and was why all those 20 year olds looked 40)…
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WW2 probably didn't help much either.
The good old days.
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This picture was taken in Pittsburgh in 1940. It was taken at 9 AM.
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Life expectancy at birth in 1930 was 58 for men and 62 for women.
so the idea that in the 30s, people were healthier doesnt really hold water.
@bachophile said in Before we were fat:
Life expectancy at birth in 1930 was 58 for men and 62 for women.
so the idea that in the 30s, people were healthier doesnt really hold water.
That's lower than expected. I wonder how much of the effect is due to infant mortality going down.
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@bachophile said in Before we were fat:
Life expectancy at birth in 1930 was 58 for men and 62 for women.
so the idea that in the 30s, people were healthier doesnt really hold water.
That's lower than expected. I wonder how much of the effect is due to infant mortality going down.
@xenon said in Before we were fat:
That's lower than expected. I wonder how much of the effect is due to infant mortality going down.
Good point. I wonder how it would be if you eliminated deaths during the first year of life.
In Rome:
However, if a person survived childhood, their life expectancy would increase significantly.
For example, a Roman reaching the age of 10 could expect to live to around 45 or 50.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_Roman_Empire
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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How about “All of the above”?
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@xenon said in Before we were fat:
That's lower than expected. I wonder how much of the effect is due to infant mortality going down.
Good point. I wonder how it would be if you eliminated deaths during the first year of life.
In Rome:
However, if a person survived childhood, their life expectancy would increase significantly.
For example, a Roman reaching the age of 10 could expect to live to around 45 or 50.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_Roman_Empire
@George-K That is interesting Half the people died before age 10 years.
