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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    Really??!! How can people still support him?????

    People can say that is "President Trump just being President Trump.", and that works the first time. Maybe even the second or third times. But at some point, people have to realize that he is in no way should be president of the US.

    (And yes, I would say the same thing about President Biden at this point also.)

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    @taiwan_girl said in UN-NATO:

    he is in no way should be president of the US.

    That has never been the question.

    Too many people seem to think it is about a love affair. It isn't.

    Trump or Clinton?

    Trump or Biden?

    I'll pick Trump every time, it's not even close.

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      What are the policies that President Trump has vs. the others that you base your vote on? I am guessing that you have certain specific issues that overrule all others.

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      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

        What are the policies that President Trump has vs. the others that you base your vote on? I am guessing that you have certain specific issues that overrule all others.

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        @taiwan_girl said in UN-NATO:

        certain specific issues that overrule all others.

        He likes the United States.

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        • CopperC Copper

          @taiwan_girl said in UN-NATO:

          certain specific issues that overrule all others.

          He likes the United States.

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          @Copper said in UN-NATO:

          @taiwan_girl said in UN-NATO:

          certain specific issues that overrule all others.

          He likes the United States.

          I think it is disengenius to say that the others don't. You may not agree with certain of their policies but I very much doubt that President Biden or President Clinton did not like the US.

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          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            @Copper said in UN-NATO:

            @taiwan_girl said in UN-NATO:

            certain specific issues that overrule all others.

            He likes the United States.

            I think it is disengenius to say that the others don't. You may not agree with certain of their policies but I very much doubt that President Biden or President Clinton did not like the US.

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            @taiwan_girl said in UN-NATO:

            President Biden or President Clinton did not like the US.

            Mr. Biden has taken money to act as an agent for China. What could be worse?

            Ms. Clinton put up a politically more useful front. Like many at the time, she and her husband were anti-war when he was facing the draft. He had a high draft number so he was never drafted, but he was in the process of avoiding the draft when he got lucky.

            Of course the Obamas are famous for their dislike of the USA, they revel in it.

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            • CopperC Copper

              @taiwan_girl said in UN-NATO:

              President Biden or President Clinton did not like the US.

              Mr. Biden has taken money to act as an agent for China. What could be worse?

              Ms. Clinton put up a politically more useful front. Like many at the time, she and her husband were anti-war when he was facing the draft. He had a high draft number so he was never drafted, but he was in the process of avoiding the draft when he got lucky.

              Of course the Obamas are famous for their dislike of the USA, they revel in it.

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              @Copper

              It is said that Cadet Trump was deferred from the draft owing to one or more bone spurs on his heel(s) and subsequent student enrolments.

              Truth be known however he was declared medically unfit because his school record at the Academy and presiding physicians determined he was thoroughly devoid of any moral character. Meaning that if placed in a combat situation, soldier Trump would put his unit in grave risk through an inability to follow orders owing to an unwarranted and narcissistic sense of entitlement as well as a cowardly refusal to be held accountable in the face of adversity. In addition to all that, he loved himself more than his country and his fellow soldiers. In short, a uniformed Trump would be a total waste of rations to his unit, company and regiment.

              The bone spurs story, was just that- a story.

              Elbows up!

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                It is said

                Yes, it is said by idiots who make up stupid childish stories.

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                • RenaudaR Renauda

                  @Copper

                  It is said that Cadet Trump was deferred from the draft owing to one or more bone spurs on his heel(s) and subsequent student enrolments.

                  Truth be known however he was declared medically unfit because his school record at the Academy and presiding physicians determined he was thoroughly devoid of any moral character. Meaning that if placed in a combat situation, soldier Trump would put his unit in grave risk through an inability to follow orders owing to an unwarranted and narcissistic sense of entitlement as well as a cowardly refusal to be held accountable in the face of adversity. In addition to all that, he loved himself more than his country and his fellow soldiers. In short, a uniformed Trump would be a total waste of rations to his unit, company and regiment.

                  The bone spurs story, was just that- a story.

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                  @Renauda said in UN-NATO:

                  @Copper

                  It is said that Cadet Trump was deferred from the draft owing to one or more bone spurs on his heel(s) and subsequent student enrolments.

                  He received 4 student deferments and one medical deferment for bone spurs.

                  The (P )resident received 5 student deferments and one medical deferment for asthma as a teenager. Yet, he served as a lifeguard and played football - could have been an all-American, you know.

                  @Renauda said in UN-NATO:

                  he was declared medically unfit because the his school record at the Academy and presiding physicians determined he was thoroughly devoid of any moral character

                  I've never seen that. Can you provide a link?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • CopperC Copper

                    @taiwan_girl said in UN-NATO:

                    certain specific issues that overrule all others.

                    He likes the United States.

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                    @Copper said in UN-NATO:

                    @taiwan_girl said in UN-NATO:

                    certain specific issues that overrule all others.

                    He likes the United States.

                    He's nothing if not a uniter.

                    I think we all know what Donald Trump loves more than anything.

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @Copper said in UN-NATO:

                      @taiwan_girl said in UN-NATO:

                      certain specific issues that overrule all others.

                      He likes the United States.

                      He's nothing if not a uniter.

                      I think we all know what Donald Trump loves more than anything.

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                      @Doctor-Phibes said in UN-NATO:

                      I think we all know what Donald Trump loves more than anything.

                      It says right on his hat.

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                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        What are the policies that President Trump has vs. the others that you base your vote on? I am guessing that you have certain specific issues that overrule all others.

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                        @taiwan_girl said in UN-NATO:

                        What are the policies that President Trump has vs. the others that you base your vote on? I am guessing that you have certain specific issues that overrule all others.

                        The first three issues...

                        1. Judges
                        2. Judges
                        3. Judges

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • CopperC Copper

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in UN-NATO:

                          I think we all know what Donald Trump loves more than anything.

                          It says right on his hat.

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                          @Copper said in UN-NATO:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in UN-NATO:

                          I think we all know what Donald Trump loves more than anything.

                          It says right on his hat.

                          "Made in China?"

                          I was only joking

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                          • George KG George K

                            @Renauda said in UN-NATO:

                            @Copper

                            It is said that Cadet Trump was deferred from the draft owing to one or more bone spurs on his heel(s) and subsequent student enrolments.

                            He received 4 student deferments and one medical deferment for bone spurs.

                            The (P )resident received 5 student deferments and one medical deferment for asthma as a teenager. Yet, he served as a lifeguard and played football - could have been an all-American, you know.

                            @Renauda said in UN-NATO:

                            he was declared medically unfit because the his school record at the Academy and presiding physicians determined he was thoroughly devoid of any moral character

                            I've never seen that. Can you provide a link?

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                            @George-K said in UN-NATO:

                            @Renauda said in UN-NATO:

                            @Copper

                            It is said that Cadet Trump was deferred from the draft owing to one or more bone spurs on his heel(s) and subsequent student enrolments.

                            He received 4 student deferments and one medical deferment for bone spurs.

                            The (P )resident received 5 student deferments and one medical deferment for asthma as a teenager. Yet, he served as a lifeguard and played football - could have been an all-American, you know.

                            @Renauda said in UN-NATO:

                            he was declared medically unfit because the his school record at the Academy and presiding physicians determined he was thoroughly devoid of any moral character

                            I've never seen that. Can you provide a link?

                            Actually no I can’t provide a link because I made it up just to give Copper the opportunity to react to a low hanging fruit of facetious sarcasm and call me out as an idiot. Which, of course he did in so many words:

                            It is said

                            Yes, it is said by idiots who make up stupid childish stories

                            Perhaps I am one among idiots. Not that I care what Copper or any one else here thinks about my postings. Just my way of calling him out and telling him I think very little of his reactionary way of seeing the world around him. There I stand.

                            Elbows up!

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                              https://wapo.st/3wgXwWZ

                              WaPo has put together this nice article with graphics showing NATO member states' defense spending relative to the "2% of GDP" target, including trends for these countries over the last 10 years.

                              Among other things, there are these nugget:

                              Most of the countries that spent beyond the 2 percent mark either share a border with Russia or sit near the front lines of the Ukraine war.

                              (It’s worth noting that most of the big spenders have national laws or policies that require 2 percent defense spending in accordance with NATO’s goals.)

                              After Russia invaded Ukraine in February of that year, defense spending spiked in several countries.

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                                As an old fighter pilot once said, " You go to war with the army you have".

                                That means you have what you have, when the ball drops. Sadly, several countries in Europe ain't been packing their share of the load, be it manpower, equipment or training.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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