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    Catseye3
    wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 16:38 last edited by Catseye3 8 Jun 2020, 21:17
    #6

    Oh, goodie. All the kewl kids are CL.

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 16:43 last edited by
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      It’s an interesting exercise, and I have to assume your point of reference is TNCR itself. Surely in Canada Renauda is center right if not just plain old right.

      George is more conservative than Horace in most respects. He’s just not Trumpist.

      But Horace makes sympathetic noises about single payer healthcare, for example, that you’d never hear George make.

      Anyway, besides quibbles like that it seems pretty good.

      They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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        6 Aug 2020, 16:43

        It’s an interesting exercise, and I have to assume your point of reference is TNCR itself. Surely in Canada Renauda is center right if not just plain old right.

        George is more conservative than Horace in most respects. He’s just not Trumpist.

        But Horace makes sympathetic noises about single payer healthcare, for example, that you’d never hear George make.

        Anyway, besides quibbles like that it seems pretty good.

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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 16:45 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

        and I have to assume your point of reference is TNCR itself.

        Correct.

        On some people, I just wasn't sure. Somethings I thought the were one side or the other, but wasn't too sure so just guessed!! LOL

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          6 Aug 2020, 16:43

          It’s an interesting exercise, and I have to assume your point of reference is TNCR itself. Surely in Canada Renauda is center right if not just plain old right.

          George is more conservative than Horace in most respects. He’s just not Trumpist.

          But Horace makes sympathetic noises about single payer healthcare, for example, that you’d never hear George make.

          Anyway, besides quibbles like that it seems pretty good.

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          Horace
          wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 17:13 last edited by
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          @jon-nyc said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

          It’s an interesting exercise, and I have to assume your point of reference is TNCR itself. Surely in Canada Renauda is center right if not just plain old right.

          George is more conservative than Horace in most respects. He’s just not Trumpist.

          Well yeah but you'd be incapable of establishing what 'Trumpist' means beyond 'doesn't share my visceral hatred of the man'.

          Education is extremely important.

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 17:17 last edited by
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            I think a better word for his followers would be 'Trumpeter'.

            I was only joking

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              Horace
              wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 17:19 last edited by
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              Well yeah but you'd be incapable of establishing what 'follower' or 'Trumpeter' means beyond 'doesn't share my visceral hatred of the man'.

              Education is extremely important.

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                Larry
                wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 17:30 last edited by
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                40 years ago what you think of as center would have been the Left. Forty years ago had someone done that list they would have said I was a centrist. But the thing is, I haven't moved one inch from where I was 40 years ago. The center shifted.

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                  6 Aug 2020, 17:17

                  I think a better word for his followers would be 'Trumpeter'.

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                  Larry
                  wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 17:33 last edited by
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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                  I think a better word for his followers would be 'Trumpeter'.

                  I think an even better word for his supporter (not followers) would be AMERICANS.

                  Calling Trump supporters "followers" is insulting. It implies we are members of a cult. The cult is the Left, those suffering from TDS are the cultists.

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 17:38 last edited by
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                    So, anybody who doesn't support him isn't a real American. Right, nothing cult-like there, at all.

                    I was only joking

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                      6 Aug 2020, 16:33

                      @Larry said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                      Who is Aqua Copper?

                      Oops - need to edit! LOL

                      Edited. LOL Copper and Aqua were right next to each other on my alaphet list. I had copper as R and Aqua as CL

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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 17:40 last edited by
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                      @taiwan_girl said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                      @Larry said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                      Who is Aqua Copper?

                      Oops - need to edit! LOL

                      Edited. LOL Copper and Aqua were right next to each other on my alaphet list. I had copper as R and Aqua as CL

                      I have no idea what I'd label myself as anymore. There's no prominent platform out there that doesn't subscribe to a Yellow Dog ideology, so to hell with all of them.

                      CL or no, I'll say this for nothing: I'm far more comfortable hanging with Trumpists these days than anyone woke.

                      Please love yourself.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 17:42 last edited by
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                        The only reason the visceral, destructive hatred of Trump isn't shameful is because all the people who feel it are surrounded by people who also feel it. These sorts of things only become shameful with historical perspective, if ever.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • D Doctor Phibes
                          6 Aug 2020, 17:38

                          So, anybody who doesn't support him isn't a real American. Right, nothing cult-like there, at all.

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                          Larry
                          wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 17:45 last edited by
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                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                          So, anybody who doesn't support him isn't a real American. Right, nothing cult-like there, at all.

                          I didn't say that. You're the one drawing lines, not me.

                          But now that you mention it, let's consider the actions of your side of the aisle and see how American they are.. burning flags, infanticide, attempting to make us a Socialist country, chanting "fuck America", and on an on. That's the side you're on, whether you are willing to admit it or not. And that's not American.

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 17:47 last edited by Doctor Phibes 8 Jun 2020, 17:48
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                            That's not actually the side I'm on, at all.

                            I know that would simplify things, but that doesn't make it true.

                            I was only joking

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                              Larry
                              wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 17:49 last edited by
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                              Well, having read several years of your opinions.... Yes, that's the side you're on.

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 17:52 last edited by Doctor Phibes 8 Jun 2020, 17:53
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                                Whatever you say, Larry. Always the voice of reason.

                                You paint anybody who doesn't agree with you as an imbecile, or an extremist, or both.

                                I was only joking

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                                  Larry
                                  wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 17:56 last edited by
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                                  No, I paint anyone who is on the left as mentally ill. And the proof of that is all over the place.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 18:22 last edited by Doctor Phibes 8 Jun 2020, 18:23
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                                    I actually despair of the political situation. I don't see anything good happening.

                                    And for the record, I dislike enormously the flag burning, the rioting and looting, the chanting of 'fuck America' and so on.

                                    If you want to paint me as a villain or a hard-leftist, that's your prerogative, but it's still a load of laughable old bollocks.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      6 Aug 2020, 18:22

                                      I actually despair of the political situation. I don't see anything good happening.

                                      And for the record, I dislike enormously the flag burning, the rioting and looting, the chanting of 'fuck America' and so on.

                                      If you want to paint me as a villain or a hard-leftist, that's your prerogative, but it's still a load of laughable old bollocks.

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                                      Catseye3
                                      wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 18:29 last edited by Catseye3 8 Jun 2020, 18:30
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                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                      I actually despair of the political situation. I don't see anything good happening.

                                      Me, neither. More than usual, these two candidates are both supremely bad. I can see a road to ruin for this my beloved country with either of them.

                                      Though I don't regard it as inevitable.

                                      My sole hope is that Biden, being of the political class and having spent beaucoup years in the political system, will be less of a loose cannon and may be more amenable to working with the other branch.

                                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                        6 Aug 2020, 17:40

                                        @taiwan_girl said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                        @Larry said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                        Who is Aqua Copper?

                                        Oops - need to edit! LOL

                                        Edited. LOL Copper and Aqua were right next to each other on my alaphet list. I had copper as R and Aqua as CL

                                        I have no idea what I'd label myself as anymore. There's no prominent platform out there that doesn't subscribe to a Yellow Dog ideology, so to hell with all of them.

                                        CL or no, I'll say this for nothing: I'm far more comfortable hanging with Trumpists these days than anyone woke.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 18:32 last edited by
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                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                        I have no idea what I'd label myself as anymore. There's no prominent platform out there that doesn't subscribe to a Yellow Dog ideology, so to hell with all of them.

                                        Obvious lobbying to join me in the Objective category is obvious.

                                        But it isn’t going to work. Horace anointed me and me alone.

                                        They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                        • D Doctor Phibes
                                          6 Aug 2020, 18:22

                                          I actually despair of the political situation. I don't see anything good happening.

                                          And for the record, I dislike enormously the flag burning, the rioting and looting, the chanting of 'fuck America' and so on.

                                          If you want to paint me as a villain or a hard-leftist, that's your prerogative, but it's still a load of laughable old bollocks.

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                                          Larry
                                          wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 18:35 last edited by
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                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                          I actually despair of the political situation. I don't see anything good happening.

                                          And for the record, I dislike enormously the flag burning, the rioting and looting, the chanting of 'fuck America' and so on.

                                          If you want to paint me as a villain or a hard-leftist, that's your prerogative, but it's still a load of laughable old bollocks.

                                          Why shouldn't I? Isn't that exactly what you did to me when you labeled me as a "Trumpist" and said I was a "follower"?

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