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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    Republics were for border control until they were against it. LOL

    (yes, yes, yes, I understand that President Biden has done nothing (or worse than nothing for three years on the border.)

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    @taiwan_girl said in NR: Biden's Brazenness on the border:

    Republics were for border control until they were against it. LOL

    GOP is against it now? Please explain.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      I have no doubt Biden will shut the border down if:

      1. It's politically expedient. All of his political life, Biden's only political strength is judging waves and getting on the opinion surfboard at the right time.
      2. Harris made the citizenship argument last week. Internal number crunching must currently show them they have imported enough new voters to maintain their long term power.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        I have no doubt Biden will shut the border down if:

        1. It's politically expedient. All of his political life, Biden's only political strength is judging waves and getting on the opinion surfboard at the right time.
        2. Harris made the citizenship argument last week. Internal number crunching must currently show them they have imported enough new voters to maintain their long term power.
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        @Jolly said in NR: Biden's Brazenness on the border:

        Internal number crunching must currently show them they have imported enough new voters to maintain their long term power

        That was always the goal, wasn't it?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          @Jolly said in NR: Biden's Brazenness on the border:

          Internal number crunching must currently show them they have imported enough new voters to maintain their long term power

          That was always the goal, wasn't it?

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          @George-K said in NR: Biden's Brazenness on the border:

          @Jolly said in NR: Biden's Brazenness on the border:

          Internal number crunching must currently show them they have imported enough new voters to maintain their long term power

          That was always the goal, wasn't it?

          I think it's one of them. I think the other is a goal of socialism through a modification of the Cloward-Piven strategy.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Surfing...

            https://nypost.com/2024/01/28/opinion/joe-biden-now-doing-what-he-does-best-weaseling-out-of-the-blame-for-us-border-crisis/

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • George KG George K

              @taiwan_girl said in NR: Biden's Brazenness on the border:

              Republics were for border control until they were against it. LOL

              GOP is against it now? Please explain.

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              @George-K said in NR: Biden's Brazenness on the border:

              @taiwan_girl said in NR: Biden's Brazenness on the border:

              Republics were for border control until they were against it. LOL

              GOP is against it now? Please explain.

              https://www.axios.com/2024/01/29/oklahoma-republicans-condemn-lankford-senate-border-talks

              The big picture: Oklahoma Republican Party vice chair Wayne Hill announced in a statement Saturday that the state GOP had passed a resolution condemning and censuring Lankford over the border talks, threatened to withdraw support for him and accused him of "playing fast and loose with Democrats" on the issue.

              How does that make sense? A Senator is trying to work with the other party to get a deal that is acceptable to both and will not just result in the typical "no action". What is the result? He gets beat down by his own party

              Trump has come out strongly against any bipartisan deal on the border.

              Here is what the Republican lead Senator says about the potential deal

              Lankford noted the "internet rumors" during a "Fox News Sunday" interview during which he said the bill "focuses on getting us to zero illegal crossings" per day.
              "There's no amnesty. It increases a number of Border Patrol agents and it increases asylum officers. It increases detention beds so we can quickly detain and then deport individuals," he told Fox anchor Shannon Bream.
              "It focuses on additional deportation flights out. It changes our asylum process so that people can get a fast asylum screening at a higher standard and then get returned back to their home country," Lankford added.

              So, it seems as if they were for stricter border rules until their actually may be. Then, it may hurt them politically if something goes through, so they are not really for it now.

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                Until there's a bill, and, at present, it's all being done in smoke-filled rooms, we don't know what the proposals are.

                One proposal (might be rumor) says that "illegal" crossings would be limited to 5,000 per day 1,825,000 per year.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Lankford can say what he wants. As George said, right now we have a concrete nothing.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    I’ve got an objection to it on moral grounds. I am done with omnibus bills. I’m for Ukrainian support, I am for Border Control. Put each issue up for a vote by itself. They fly or they don’t
                    .

                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      I’ve got an objection to it on moral grounds. I am done with omnibus bills. I’m for Ukrainian support, I am for Border Control. Put each issue up for a vote by itself. They fly or they don’t
                      .

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                      @LuFins-Dad said in NR: Biden's Brazenness on the border:

                      I’ve got an objection to it on moral grounds. I am done with omnibus bills. I’m for Ukrainian support, I am for Border Control. Put each issue up for a vote by itself. They fly or they don’t
                      .

                      I can support that.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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