Massachusetts axes degree requirement for state jobs

[Horace]

That would be a statistical certainty when everybody goes to college.

[Horace]

The best book on this subject is Against Higher Education by Bryan Caplan, a libertarian economist.

[George K]

@Jolly said in Massachusetts axes degree requirement for state jobs:

Guess the average college IQ...

https://www.joannejacobs.com/post/college-students-aren-t-all-that-smart-iq-average-falls-to-102

Now do the demographics.

[Jolly]

@George-K said in Massachusetts axes degree requirement for state jobs:

@Jolly said in Massachusetts axes degree requirement for state jobs:

Guess the average college IQ...

https://www.joannejacobs.com/post/college-students-aren-t-all-that-smart-iq-average-falls-to-102

Now do the demographics.

Ain't going there, O Bell Curvian...

[George K]

@Jolly said in Massachusetts axes degree requirement for state jobs:

Ain't going there, O Bell Curvian...

IOW, you're not going to touch that tar-baby....

[Doctor Phibes]

In 2017, Education Testing Service "experts" estimated that physics (133), math (130), philosophy (129) and materials science (129) majors have the highest IQs. (I assume they're extrapolating from SAT scores.) I was an English major (120). Education majors average 110.

Not sure why she felt the need to put the "experts" in inverted comma's. Maybe she's upset because she's an English Major (120). Speaking as a joint-honours graduate in maths and physics, I wholeheartedly support these findings. My only question is whether my IQ is likely to be the mean or the sum of 133 and 130.

[George K]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Massachusetts axes degree requirement for state jobs:

in inverted comma's

Not an English major, I see...LOL.

[Horace]

The IQ range is whatever-studies...education...English...Philosophy...Math...Physics............................................................................................public intellectuals

[Doctor Phibes]

@George-K said in Massachusetts axes degree requirement for state jobs:

Not an English major, I see...LOL.

My mind is on higher things, obviously.

[Copper]

@George-K said in Massachusetts axes degree requirement for state jobs:

Now do the demographics.

People of IQ have had enough privilege.

It's time for equity.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said in Massachusetts axes degree requirement for state jobs:

public intellectuals

Do you mean like YouTubers?

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Massachusetts axes degree requirement for state jobs:

@Horace said in Massachusetts axes degree requirement for state jobs:

public intellectuals

Do you mean like YouTubers?

Those who are affecting change, improving the human condition by sharing their thoughts with the public, often in the face of ridicule. Our public intellectuals are selfless martyrs, similar to most religious figures. Don't try it at home - the path is grueling, and often thankless.

But sometimes, ideas simply need to be free.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said in Massachusetts axes degree requirement for state jobs:

@Doctor-Phibes said in Massachusetts axes degree requirement for state jobs:

@Horace said in Massachusetts axes degree requirement for state jobs:

public intellectuals

Do you mean like YouTubers?

Those who are affecting change, improving the human condition by sharing their thoughts with the public, often in the face of ridicule. Our public intellectuals are selfless martyrs, similar to most religious figures. Don't try it at home - the path is grueling, and often thankless.

But sometimes, ideas simply need to be free.

Oh, you mean wankers. You should have said.

[Axtremus]

https://steemit.com/education/@chhaylin/are-too-many-people-going-to-college-a-look-at-iq-distributions-tells-us-why-this-is-the-case

https://thetab.com/us/2017/04/10/which-major-has-highest-iq-64811

[Jolly]

Neat. Never knew polysci majors were smarter than healthcare providers (whatever the heck that means).

[Axtremus]

Do you need a college degree?

Four generations ago, merely knowing how to read was considered an enviable achievement; merely knowing how to do simple sums was considered an enviable achievement.

Three generations ago, merely completing primary/elementary school (~6 years of formal education) was considered an enviable achievement.

Two generations ago, merely completing high school (~12 years of formal education) was considered an enviable achievement.

One generation ago, getting a Bachelor's degree (~16 years of formal education) was considered an enviable achievement.

Now, looking at the current working-age population, having a Bachelor's degree is more a norm than an exception.

Whether it's "college degree" or "vocational training" or "apprenticeship," the trend is that we need more and more systematic education/training to be competitive. "College" these days is merely a glorified extension of "high school." We are not going back to a world where "less education/training" will be enough to make one competitive on the labor market.

[George K]

@Axtremus said in Massachusetts axes degree requirement for state jobs:

Four generations ago, merely knowing how to read was considered an enviable achievement; merely knowing how to do simple sums was considered an enviable achievement.

Here's something from 5 generations ago.

[Jolly]

Just a side thought...Are we becoming increasingly successful at breeding stupid people?

[Copper]

@George-K said in Massachusetts axes degree requirement for state jobs:

Here's something from 5 generations ago.

That is beautiful.

I think the average high school college graduate would have trouble scoring 10% or better.

And I think a lot of answers have changed since that test was written, especially history.

[taiwan_girl]

@George-K That was interesting. In History - #10, what is a magnetic?

@Copper I agree. There would be lots of questions from today's tests that would unanswerable to people back than.

I am guessing however that the % of people who went to school back then and were in school long enough to take a test like that was probably somewhat small.