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Incels' View of What Women Think Is Important Is Wrong, Study Finds

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  • MikM Away
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    Mik
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    We needed a study to determine THAT?!?!? 🤣

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/wellness/incels-view-of-what-women-think-is-important-is-wrong-study-finds/ar-AA1n8MYK?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=f0d21d211fad40069b2c103fc18dd1d7&ei=80

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      people in this community make fundamental errors about what females look for in a romantic partner. For example, they overestimate the importance of physical attractiveness and financial resources while underestimating the significance women place on intelligence, kindness, humor and loyalty.

      I wonder what their source of truth is regarding what women are looking for? I hope they're not relying on self-reported lists of characteristics women look for in a mate. Such a list would be hopelessly aspirational, with a weak connection to reality. Similar to a guy saying he doesn't care much about physical attractiveness, only because it's so important that he never even thinks about anything else about a woman until that requirement is met. So he ends up not thinking much about whether a woman is attractive, and thinking more about the stuff that is actually less important to him, but which is negotiable, and therefore worthy of long consideration.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • HoraceH Horace

        people in this community make fundamental errors about what females look for in a romantic partner. For example, they overestimate the importance of physical attractiveness and financial resources while underestimating the significance women place on intelligence, kindness, humor and loyalty.

        I wonder what their source of truth is regarding what women are looking for? I hope they're not relying on self-reported lists of characteristics women look for in a mate. Such a list would be hopelessly aspirational, with a weak connection to reality. Similar to a guy saying he doesn't care much about physical attractiveness, only because it's so important that he never even thinks about anything else about a woman until that requirement is met. So he ends up not thinking much about whether a woman is attractive, and thinking more about the stuff that is actually less important to him, but which is negotiable, and therefore worthy of long consideration.

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        @Horace said in Incels' View of What Women Think Is Important Is Wrong, Study Finds:

        people in this community make fundamental errors about what females look for in a romantic partner. For example, they overestimate the importance of physical attractiveness and financial resources while underestimating the significance women place on intelligence, kindness, humor and loyalty.

        I wonder what their source of truth is regarding what women are looking for? I hope they're not relying on self-reported lists of characteristics women look for in a mate. Such a list would be hopelessly aspirational, with a weak connection to reality. Similar to a guy saying he doesn't care much about physical attractiveness, only because it's so important that he never even thinks about anything else about a woman until that requirement is met. So he ends up not thinking much about whether a woman is attractive, and thinking more about the stuff that is actually less important to him, but which is negotiable, and therefore worthy of long consideration.

        It ain't reality. Women are hard-wired to be attracted to power and money, if given half a chance. Looks come in third. Everything else is a distant fourth.

        Which is why on dating apps, 80% of the women are chasing 20% of the guys.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          @Horace said in Incels' View of What Women Think Is Important Is Wrong, Study Finds:

          people in this community make fundamental errors about what females look for in a romantic partner. For example, they overestimate the importance of physical attractiveness and financial resources while underestimating the significance women place on intelligence, kindness, humor and loyalty.

          I wonder what their source of truth is regarding what women are looking for? I hope they're not relying on self-reported lists of characteristics women look for in a mate. Such a list would be hopelessly aspirational, with a weak connection to reality. Similar to a guy saying he doesn't care much about physical attractiveness, only because it's so important that he never even thinks about anything else about a woman until that requirement is met. So he ends up not thinking much about whether a woman is attractive, and thinking more about the stuff that is actually less important to him, but which is negotiable, and therefore worthy of long consideration.

          It ain't reality. Women are hard-wired to be attracted to power and money, if given half a chance. Looks come in third. Everything else is a distant fourth.

          Which is why on dating apps, 80% of the women are chasing 20% of the guys.

          Doctor PhibesD Online
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          @Jolly said in Incels' View of What Women Think Is Important Is Wrong, Study Finds:

          It ain't reality. Women are hard-wired to be attracted to power and money, if given half a chance. Looks come in third. Everything else is a distant fourth.

          Which is why on dating apps, 80% of the women are chasing 20% of the guys.

          Presumably the 20% who lie convincingly about their salaries. If I was rich and powerful, I wouldn't be wasting my valuable time on dating apps.

          I was only joking

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          • HoraceH Horace

            people in this community make fundamental errors about what females look for in a romantic partner. For example, they overestimate the importance of physical attractiveness and financial resources while underestimating the significance women place on intelligence, kindness, humor and loyalty.

            I wonder what their source of truth is regarding what women are looking for? I hope they're not relying on self-reported lists of characteristics women look for in a mate. Such a list would be hopelessly aspirational, with a weak connection to reality. Similar to a guy saying he doesn't care much about physical attractiveness, only because it's so important that he never even thinks about anything else about a woman until that requirement is met. So he ends up not thinking much about whether a woman is attractive, and thinking more about the stuff that is actually less important to him, but which is negotiable, and therefore worthy of long consideration.

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            jon-nyc
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            @Horace

            I was sufficiently curious about the same question to read the study methodology. The study didn’t directly address the question but quoted another paper. There I lost interest, though the lead author of the referenced paper was an evolutionary psychologist I’ve read and have decent respect for. (David Buss).

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              jon-nyc
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              I would add that even if women’s preferences in the referenced paper mapped perfectly to what they do rather than what they say, it could easily be the case that the incels still exaggerate it from there.

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                I am sure there are decent books written on the subject. My guess as to a minimum viable product from a woman's perspective is cleanliness, health, and financial stability. Next tier down might be dependability/predictability, and social status. A center Overton window mindset is important, as we've seen over the past several years where surveys show how disgusting women find heterodox politics. This relates to dependability/predictability, and also to social status.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @Jolly said in Incels' View of What Women Think Is Important Is Wrong, Study Finds:

                  It ain't reality. Women are hard-wired to be attracted to power and money, if given half a chance. Looks come in third. Everything else is a distant fourth.

                  Which is why on dating apps, 80% of the women are chasing 20% of the guys.

                  Presumably the 20% who lie convincingly about their salaries. If I was rich and powerful, I wouldn't be wasting my valuable time on dating apps.

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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Incels' View of What Women Think Is Important Is Wrong, Study Finds:

                  @Jolly said in Incels' View of What Women Think Is Important Is Wrong, Study Finds:

                  It ain't reality. Women are hard-wired to be attracted to power and money, if given half a chance. Looks come in third. Everything else is a distant fourth.

                  Which is why on dating apps, 80% of the women are chasing 20% of the guys.

                  Presumably the 20% who lie convincingly about their salaries. If I was rich and powerful, I wouldn't be wasting my valuable time on dating apps.

                  Define rich. Define powerful.

                  1. You only have to have the appearance of one or the other, or both. In some instances, I'm guessing the wealth is modest, as is the power. As long as the hardwired female lizard brain notes you as an alpha male able to provide for her and her off-spring, I suspect a guy is golden.
                  2. The 20% tend to not be entirely truthful or serious. And they will run through women like Sherman went through Georgia. Just as some 32 year-old gal who's had 60 or 70 sex partners is not viewed as wife material, most of these guys would make (IMO) lousy husbands over the long haul.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    I just attempted to appear rich and powerful to Mrs. Doctor Phibes, and she told me to stop jingling the coins in my pocket as it was distracting her from surfing https://www.forsuperrich.com/

                    Get a load of this, ladies if you can take the heat....

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                    I was only joking

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                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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