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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    I'm sure there's a good explanation.

    Ah, of course there is:

    The Southern Illinois University School of Medicine briefly employed Emily Kruse Carr, the daughter of its dean, as its first poetry professor this fall, university records show.

    Carr, a creative writing professor and self-described “ecofeminist” and “beach witch,” joined the medical school as an assistant professor of medical humanities and medical education in August, according to her LinkedIn profile and university records.

    “Emily Carr’s last day at SIU School of Medicine was Friday,” Rikeesha Phelon, spokeswoman for the university, told The College Fix last week.

    Phelon confirmed that Carr was “briefly employed” in the area of medical humanities, which she said helps “inform medical education, policy and practice” through the study of “philosophy, history, religion, social sciences and the arts, including creative writing and poetry.”

    It's unclear what they mean by "brief," but perhaps it was only for a matter of a few months.

    Nevertheless, it's an interesting "coincidence."

    “There are 5,800 institutions of higher learning across America. What are the odds that Carr landed at the only institution that employs her father as dean and provost?” Andrzejewski told The College Fix.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      I'm sure there's a good explanation.

      Ah, of course there is:

      The Southern Illinois University School of Medicine briefly employed Emily Kruse Carr, the daughter of its dean, as its first poetry professor this fall, university records show.

      Carr, a creative writing professor and self-described “ecofeminist” and “beach witch,” joined the medical school as an assistant professor of medical humanities and medical education in August, according to her LinkedIn profile and university records.

      “Emily Carr’s last day at SIU School of Medicine was Friday,” Rikeesha Phelon, spokeswoman for the university, told The College Fix last week.

      Phelon confirmed that Carr was “briefly employed” in the area of medical humanities, which she said helps “inform medical education, policy and practice” through the study of “philosophy, history, religion, social sciences and the arts, including creative writing and poetry.”

      It's unclear what they mean by "brief," but perhaps it was only for a matter of a few months.

      Nevertheless, it's an interesting "coincidence."

      “There are 5,800 institutions of higher learning across America. What are the odds that Carr landed at the only institution that employs her father as dean and provost?” Andrzejewski told The College Fix.

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      @George-K said in Medical School in Illinois:

      its first poetry professor

      When I get a prescription from my doctor I expect Rhyme with Rhythm and a little onomatopoeia wouldn't hurt.

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        I wish I had had a course in poetry (I could have had a reasonable conversation with @Aqua-Letifer ).

        Instead, I learned all the boring stuff:

        Gross anatomy
        Biochemistry
        Histology
        Physiology
        Pharmacology
        Neuroanatomy

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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          Aqua Letifer
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          I'm so glad you came across that, George. I'm glad the nonsense that pervades poetry is finally seeping into other areas of life. Maybe now someone will actually step in and call the insanity what it is.

          Her bullshit is entirely typical of the environment.

          Please love yourself.

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by George K
            #5

            What really bothers me is a couple of things.

            The fact that such a position even exists. I know she's no longer employed there, but someone had to create the spot. That person should be fired for no other reason than because I said so.

            Secondly, the blatant nepotism. I suppose she was only there for a while because someone found out that her daddy ($650K a year) is dean.

            EDIT:

            If you look at the faculty page, there's no "poetry" listed.

            https://www.siumed.edu/faculty

            Did they shut it down?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              What really bothers me is a couple of things.

              The fact that such a position even exists. I know she's no longer employed there, but someone had to create the spot. That person should be fired for no other reason than because I said so.

              Secondly, the blatant nepotism. I suppose she was only there for a while because someone found out that her daddy ($650K a year) is dean.

              EDIT:

              If you look at the faculty page, there's no "poetry" listed.

              https://www.siumed.edu/faculty

              Did they shut it down?

              Aqua LetiferA Offline
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              Aqua Letifer
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              @George-K said in Medical School in Illinois:

              What really bothers me is a couple of things.

              The fact that such a position even exists. I know she's no longer employed there, but someone had to create the spot. That person should be fired for no other reason than because I said so.

              Secondly, the blatant nepotism. I suppose she was only there for a while because someone found out that her daddy ($650K a year) is dean.

              8a7kxv.jpg

              Those are all valid points. What bothers me about it is that this is exactly how poetry as a field of study gets its reputation. This shit right here. It's because of this woman and other dipshits like her that my degree is laughed at.

              Don't get me wrong, though, I'm not sorry at all that I studied what I did. As my master's advisor — okay not my actual advisor, who was a drunk and never showed up to our meetings so I had to be reassigned to someone who wasn't a poet but actually took his job seriously (seeing the fucking pattern here?) — liked to say, "poetry isn't going anywhere."

              Screenshot 2023-12-22 at 10.05.37 AM.png

              • Kids still make up catchy slurs to sling at each other.

              • People don't make up their own poems and songs as much as they used to, but they'll reconfigure pop song lyrics in a Weird Al kind of a way as a joke.

              • More formally, you'll often hear poetry brought out in wedding ceremonies, eulogies, and retirement speeches. Shoddy limericks maybe, but it's still poetry.

              • Poetry still provides the central theme to our best movies and TV shows. You can't have Breaking Bad without "The Learned Astronomer." (Ever wonder why the main character's name is Walt?) You can't have Interstallar without Dylan Thomas. You wouldn't have the Addams Family or Netflix's "Wednesday" without "Monday's Child."

              We don't respect poetry anymore — and I don't blame anyone who doesn't, really — but we still know we should.

              Please love yourself.

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              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                @George-K said in Medical School in Illinois:

                What really bothers me is a couple of things.

                The fact that such a position even exists. I know she's no longer employed there, but someone had to create the spot. That person should be fired for no other reason than because I said so.

                Secondly, the blatant nepotism. I suppose she was only there for a while because someone found out that her daddy ($650K a year) is dean.

                8a7kxv.jpg

                Those are all valid points. What bothers me about it is that this is exactly how poetry as a field of study gets its reputation. This shit right here. It's because of this woman and other dipshits like her that my degree is laughed at.

                Don't get me wrong, though, I'm not sorry at all that I studied what I did. As my master's advisor — okay not my actual advisor, who was a drunk and never showed up to our meetings so I had to be reassigned to someone who wasn't a poet but actually took his job seriously (seeing the fucking pattern here?) — liked to say, "poetry isn't going anywhere."

                Screenshot 2023-12-22 at 10.05.37 AM.png

                • Kids still make up catchy slurs to sling at each other.

                • People don't make up their own poems and songs as much as they used to, but they'll reconfigure pop song lyrics in a Weird Al kind of a way as a joke.

                • More formally, you'll often hear poetry brought out in wedding ceremonies, eulogies, and retirement speeches. Shoddy limericks maybe, but it's still poetry.

                • Poetry still provides the central theme to our best movies and TV shows. You can't have Breaking Bad without "The Learned Astronomer." (Ever wonder why the main character's name is Walt?) You can't have Interstallar without Dylan Thomas. You wouldn't have the Addams Family or Netflix's "Wednesday" without "Monday's Child."

                We don't respect poetry anymore — and I don't blame anyone who doesn't, really — but we still know we should.

                George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by George K
                #7

                @Aqua-Letifer said in Medical School in Illinois:

                We don't respect poetry anymore

                Probably because it's not taught, and therefore not understood.

                I asked my kids who ee cummings was. They had no clue. I knew cummings when I was a freaking sophomore in HIGH SCHOOL.

                "What's a sonnet?"

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG George K

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Medical School in Illinois:

                  We don't respect poetry anymore

                  Probably because it's not taught, and therefore not understood.

                  I asked my kids who ee cummings was. They had no clue. I knew cummings when I was a freaking sophomore in HIGH SCHOOL.

                  "What's a sonnet?"

                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  @George-K said in Medical School in Illinois:

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Medical School in Illinois:

                  We don't respect poetry anymore

                  Probably because it's not taught, and therefore not understood.

                  I asked my kids who ee cummings was. They had no clue. I knew cummings when I was a freaking sophomore in HIGH SCHOOL.

                  That's pretty much the ideal time to learn about cummings. They didn't know? SMH.

                  "What's a sonnet?"

                  Oh for fuck's sake.

                  But yeah, I get it. In the few places where it's taught, too, they do nothing to make it accessible. And the funny thing is, there's nothing more accessible than poetry.

                  It's how we passed the time before TV and, well, capitalism. You'd have a pilgrim stay at your house overnight on his way to the holy land, or a traveller making it home by foot after a viking raid destroyed his ship, whatever, and you'd share poems you knew with the folks who took you in for the night. Everyone was quite keen on it.

                  That goes back to ancient times, but even in the Victorian era you'd have folks makin' up washing songs, sea shanties and sing-songy taunts to aggravate your classmates.

                  It's far more natural and long-standing than writing with a pen and people don't even know what it is today.

                  Please love yourself.

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