The Pallet Scam?
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Poplar is $5 a bf??? Christ on a popsicle stick - that's what I used to pay for walnut.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@George-K said in The Pallet Scam?:
Poplar is $5 a bf??? Christ on a popsicle stick - that's what I used to pay for walnut.
Candy bars ain't a nickel no more...I'm assuming that's 1C.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@George-K said in The Pallet Scam?:
Poplar is $5 a bf??? Christ on a popsicle stick - that's what I used to pay for walnut.
Candy bars ain't a nickel no more...I'm assuming that's 1C.
@Jolly said in The Pallet Scam?:
Candy bars ain't a nickel no more...I'm assuming that's 1C.
When I bought my Delta Unisaw in 1992 (?), it came with a generic fence and I think I paid about $1700 then. I added a Vega fence for another $300. I don't remember how much the cast-iron extension was, but I want to say about $2100.
Today's that's about $4,400.
An equivalent SawStop is about $3600.
Shipping is pricey (!) at about $300.
I still would have jumped at it at the time.
My choice of tablesaw was to some extent determined by who would deliver it into my basement.
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No, it's not a Unisaw, but it's a lot of saw (5hp, 7' rails) for the money. Give them your email addy and they'll knock 5% off of the $2500 price:
https://www.grizzly.com/products/grizzly-10-5-hp-240v-cabinet-table-saw-with-7-rails/g1023rlx5
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5 HP??? Whoa.
One of the things I enjoyed showing my woodworking geek friends was to show them how smooth the Unisaw was. I'd take a nickel. stand it on its edge on the cast iron table, and turn on the saw. It did not tip over - ever. 30 years ago, it was a great saw.
I think I had the 3 HP version - made tough cuts easy.
Dust collection was not a thing, back then. It was a nightmare for me.
Now, it's expected.
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Be interested to hear what @Renauda has to say.
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Pallet Scam?:
Be interested to hear what @Renauda has to say.
Very little.
I made my furniture and the bathroom cabinet from hardwood crating that had come from a local steel mill. I was told the crates originated in Brazil. The crating walls had been sitting in a guy’s garage since the 1970’s. He never got round to doing anything with it and just wanted it gone. Some of it was rock hard dense, like iron wood. It was goulash of different hardwoods.
Have never used pallet wood. I do however have an oak pallet in the garage that I may some day break down and use.
I didn’t watch the video. What’s the scam about pallet wood furniture?
Elbows up!
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Pallet Scam?:
Be interested to hear what @Renauda has to say.
Very little.
I made my furniture and the bathroom cabinet from hardwood crating that had come from a local steel mill. I was told the crates originated in Brazil. The crating walls had been sitting in a guy’s garage since the 1970’s. He never got round to doing anything with it and just wanted it gone. Some of it was rock hard dense, like iron wood. It was goulash of different hardwoods.
Have never used pallet wood. I do however have an oak pallet in the garage that I may some day break down and use.
I didn’t watch the video. What’s the scam about pallet wood furniture?
@Renauda said in The Pallet Scam?:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Pallet Scam?:
Be interested to hear what @Renauda has to say.
Very little.
I made my furniture and the bathroom cabinet from hardwood crating that had come from a local steel mill. I was told the crates originated in Brazil. It had been sitting in guy’s garage since the 1970’s. Some of it was rock hard dense, like iron wood. It was goulash of different hardwoods.
Have never used pallet wood. I do however have an oak pallet in the garage that I may some day break down and use.
I didn’t watch the video. What’s the scam about pallet wood furniture?
I dunno, but my mistake, I thought you made some things with pallet wood in the past. Was going to hear your take first before I watched the video.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Pallet Scam?:
Be interested to hear what @Renauda has to say.
Very little.
I made my furniture and the bathroom cabinet from hardwood crating that had come from a local steel mill. I was told the crates originated in Brazil. The crating walls had been sitting in a guy’s garage since the 1970’s. He never got round to doing anything with it and just wanted it gone. Some of it was rock hard dense, like iron wood. It was goulash of different hardwoods.
Have never used pallet wood. I do however have an oak pallet in the garage that I may some day break down and use.
I didn’t watch the video. What’s the scam about pallet wood furniture?
@Renauda said in The Pallet Scam?:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Pallet Scam?:
Be interested to hear what @Renauda has to say.
Very little.
I made my furniture and the bathroom cabinet from hardwood crating that had come from a local steel mill. I was told the crates originated in Brazil. The crating walls had been sitting in a guy’s garage since the 1970’s. He never got round to doing anything with it and just wanted it gone. Some of it was rock hard dense, like iron wood. It was goulash of different hardwoods.
Have never used pallet wood. I do however have an oak pallet in the garage that I may some day break down and use.
I didn’t watch the video. What’s the scam about pallet wood furniture?
Basically, for somebody trying to make money with their woodworking, he built two identical tables. One was pallet wood (with walnut scraps as backing) and one from poplar. At the end of the projects, he auctioned both off. Both brought close to the same money. But...When you figured in the additional man-hours required to tear the pallets down, square them up, piecing the wood, the additional steps in finishing...Well, he made a little over $22/hr working on the pallet wood table. He made over $40/hr on the poplar table.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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I suppose it was like exotic pallet wood in terms of composition.
The biggest problem with any of that kind of wood is 1) that you never know what is embedded in it. You therefore have to be careful when time comes to plane it smooth. An unseen metal shard or broken fastener can destroy a wood planer blade in a flash. And 2) if from an offshore source was the wood treated chemically or heat treated for parasites before export? Newer pallets are clearly marked. Older crates and pallets not at all the case. Some of older chemicals used for treating the wood render it less than safe or healthy to work with or use as furniture.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Pallet Scam?:
Be interested to hear what @Renauda has to say.
Very little.
I made my furniture and the bathroom cabinet from hardwood crating that had come from a local steel mill. I was told the crates originated in Brazil. The crating walls had been sitting in a guy’s garage since the 1970’s. He never got round to doing anything with it and just wanted it gone. Some of it was rock hard dense, like iron wood. It was goulash of different hardwoods.
Have never used pallet wood. I do however have an oak pallet in the garage that I may some day break down and use.
I didn’t watch the video. What’s the scam about pallet wood furniture?
@Renauda said in The Pallet Scam?:
What’s the scam about pallet wood furniture?
It's not really a scam so much as "is it worth it?"
When you consider the cost (and time) of tearing down a pallet, removing nails, jointing, planing and getting pieces reasonable thickness, filling defects, etc, it's a
bitlot cheaper to just use poplar.If you like "pallet wood," go for it, but otherwise, not worth the hassle.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@Renauda said in The Pallet Scam?:
What’s the scam about pallet wood furniture?
It's not really a scam so much as "is it worth it?"
When you consider the cost (and time) of tearing down a pallet, removing nails, jointing, planing and getting pieces reasonable thickness, filling defects, etc, it's a
bitlot cheaper to just use poplar.If you like "pallet wood," go for it, but otherwise, not worth the hassle.
When you consider the cost (and time) of tearing down a pallet, removing nails….
Tell me about it.
It took my spouse and I two or three weeks to break down and remove the nails from those crate walls. That was working on them for at least an hour and a half per day. Two medium sized utility trailer loads of crate walls = a hell of a lot of heavy gauge framing nails of which many of were driven through and bent at the point
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@George-K said in The Pallet Scam?:
Poplar is $5 a bf??? Christ on a popsicle stick - that's what I used to pay for walnut.
Candy bars ain't a nickel no more...I'm assuming that's 1C.
@Jolly said in The Pallet Scam?:
Candy bars ain't a nickel no more
Again...by the way.
I never had the equipment for large glue-ups so my lumber yard would accommodate me for large panels.
For our dining room table, I had them fabricate a solid walnut panel, about 40" wide and about 72" long. I asked them to cut that in half (two 36" panels) so that I could put leaves between the two larger pieces. I crafted two leaves, each 18" by 40" which were also glued up for me for uniform thickness.
It was solid 5/4 walnut.
In 1986, I paid about $550 for that work.
The entire table cost me about $850. That included the extension mechanism, legs, etc. Solid walnut.
For our kitchen table I did the same thing. Had a slab of 5/4 oak, about 40" by 72" glued up. Cost me $250.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@Renauda said in The Pallet Scam?:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Pallet Scam?:
Be interested to hear what @Renauda has to say.
Very little.
I made my furniture and the bathroom cabinet from hardwood crating that had come from a local steel mill. I was told the crates originated in Brazil. The crating walls had been sitting in a guy’s garage since the 1970’s. He never got round to doing anything with it and just wanted it gone. Some of it was rock hard dense, like iron wood. It was goulash of different hardwoods.
Have never used pallet wood. I do however have an oak pallet in the garage that I may some day break down and use.
I didn’t watch the video. What’s the scam about pallet wood furniture?
Basically, for somebody trying to make money with their woodworking, he built two identical tables. One was pallet wood (with walnut scraps as backing) and one from poplar. At the end of the projects, he auctioned both off. Both brought close to the same money. But...When you figured in the additional man-hours required to tear the pallets down, square them up, piecing the wood, the additional steps in finishing...Well, he made a little over $22/hr working on the pallet wood table. He made over $40/hr on the poplar table.
I can see that.
Just checked and yes, poplar runs about $5 a board foot here as well. Used to be less than half that. I remember helping to build tie stalls for horses. Used 3 x 8 x10’ poplar planking for the floors because it was a fraction of the cost of construction grade spruce 2x8x10’s.
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@Jolly said in The Pallet Scam?:
Candy bars ain't a nickel no more
Again...by the way.
I never had the equipment for large glue-ups so my lumber yard would accommodate me for large panels.
For our dining room table, I had them fabricate a solid walnut panel, about 40" wide and about 72" long. I asked them to cut that in half (two 36" panels) so that I could put leaves between the two larger pieces. I crafted two leaves, each 18" by 40" which were also glued up for me for uniform thickness.
It was solid 5/4 walnut.
In 1986, I paid about $550 for that work.
The entire table cost me about $850. That included the extension mechanism, legs, etc. Solid walnut.
For our kitchen table I did the same thing. Had a slab of 5/4 oak, about 40" by 72" glued up. Cost me $250.
@George-K said in The Pallet Scam?:
@Jolly said in The Pallet Scam?:
Candy bars ain't a nickel no more
Again...by the way.
I never had the equipment for large glue-ups so my lumber yard would accommodate me for large panels.
For our dining room table, I had them fabricate a solid walnut panel, about 40" wide and about 72" long. I asked them to cut that in half (two 36" panels) so that I could put leaves between the two larger pieces. I crafted two leaves, each 18" by 40" which were also glued up for me for uniform thickness.
It was solid 5/4 walnut.
In 1986, I paid about $550 for that work.
The entire table cost me about $850. That included the extension mechanism, legs, etc. Solid walnut.
For our kitchen table I did the same thing. Had a slab of 5/4 oak, about 40" by 72" glued up. Cost me $250.
Wow!! That is awesome work!!!:woman-heart-man:
