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Indicted! Hunter Biden!

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    The question you probably don’t see pondered that much is whether he’d even have been indicted if his name were Hunter Smith. This almost never gets charged, and when it does there’s usually another crime involved.

    Some legal analyst said they could find no other cases where a first offender was charged for this with only one gun and no other crimes involved.

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    @jon-nyc said in Indicted! Hunter Biden!:

    The question you probably don’t see pondered that much is whether he’d even have been indicted if his name were Hunter Smith. This almost never gets charged, and when it does there’s usually another crime involved.

    Some legal analyst said they could find no other cases where a first offender was charged for this with only one gun and no other crimes involved.

    If he wasn't Hunter Biden, he'd be on the hook for a heckuva lot worse charges than a simple lying in a federal 4473.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      He has tax charges too.

      What else are you suggesting?

      Unfortunately influence peddling by family isn’t illegal. Hence Jared and his $2B of gulf money.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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      • RenaudaR Renauda

        @George-K said in Indicted! Hunter Biden!:

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        The birdbrains of Alacatraz.

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        @Renauda said in Indicted! Hunter Biden!:

        The birdbrains of Alacatraz.

        555

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          He has tax charges too.

          What else are you suggesting?

          Unfortunately influence peddling by family isn’t illegal. Hence Jared and his $2B of gulf money.

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          @jon-nyc said in Indicted! Hunter Biden!:

          Unfortunately influence peddling by family isn’t illegal.

          The part about being a spy could get tricky

          But his team shredded the plea agreement in a Delaware federal court the following month after prosecutor Leo Wise mentioned that the deal’s terms did not include immunity from future charges — including potential violations of the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA).

          https://nypost.com/2024/05/28/us-news/hunter-biden-hires-ex-bob-menendez-attorney-who-touts-winning-acquittal-of-trump-ally-on-foreign-agent-charge/

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            Definitely has potential.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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              Who's paying Hunter's legal fees? He can't afford maintenance or child support for Joe's granddaughter?

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                There was a lawyer in LA paying them but he recently said he’s ’tapped out’.

                I heard an analyst estimate his legal fees ay present are probably around 100k-150k per day.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  jon-nyc
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                  As both he and Trump have figured out, it ain’t cheap to be a felonious punk.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                    Different case, but

                    https://www.wsj.com/us-news/hunter-biden-offers-plea-to-resolve-federal-tax-case-67d9cec2?mod=credit_whatsnews_pos1

                    Hunter Biden pleaded guilty to federal tax charges Thursday, heading off a trial that was expected to further shine an unflattering light on his past business dealings and freewheeling lifestyle.
                    Biden’s surprise plea capped a whirlwind morning in Los Angeles federal court, where jury selection was set to begin for Biden’s tax trial.

                    At the outset of Thursday’s court proceedings, Biden’s lawyer proposed an unusual deal where President Biden’s son would maintain his innocence while conceding that the evidence was sufficient for a guilty verdict.

                    Prosecutors said they were shocked by the proposal of a so-called Alford deal and wouldn’t support any plea without an admission of guilt. “Hunter Biden is not innocent. Hunter Biden is guilty,” prosecutor Leo Wise told U.S. District Judge Mark Scarsi, a Trump appointee presiding over the case.

                    Later Thursday, a lawyer for Biden came back from a break and told Scarsi his client would abandon the Alford plea and plead guilty without any negotiated deal with prosecutors working under special counsel David Weiss.

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Gotta get lined out for his pardon. Guess Hunter checked Nate Silver's prediction.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        #38

                        "To avoid the jury hearing what was exposed in discovery a trial"

                        https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/hunter-biden-intends-plead-guilty-federal-tax-charges-rcna169621

                        Sentencing in December?

                        How much time, if any, will get at Club Fed?

                        Remember the laptop that was "Russian disinformation" was used as evidence in this trial.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Pardon, FTW!

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • MikM Away
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                            Joe will pardon him after the election. No question. At which point we will officially be a banana republic.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • MikM Mik

                              Joe will pardon him after the election. No question. At which point we will officially be a banana republic.

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                              @Mik said in Indicted! Hunter Biden!:

                              we will officially be a banana republic.

                              Close

                              If he makes Hunter president, then we will be a banana republic.

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                                He keeps doubling down on ‘no pardon’. Maybe he’ll commute any sentences instead and rather weakly claim he kept his word.

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  Alford Plea:

                                  https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/alford_plea

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    So, now we can call Hunter Biden not only a "Convicted felon," but also a "Self-admitted felon."

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      I'm gonna miss the public records on the discovery phase...

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        I'm gonna miss the public records on the discovery phase...

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                                        @Jolly said in Indicted! Hunter Biden!:

                                        I'm gonna miss the public records on the discovery phase.

                                        Yup - I said that a while ago.

                                        There's speculation that Hunter took the easy road (pleading guilty to a tax crime) so as to avoid disclosure of OTHER crimes that were revealed to the defense (China, Ukraine, influence peddling, implicating The Big Guy, etc).

                                        "I did it to avoid trauma to my family."

                                        No doubt.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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