The Revolt
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I kind of think she just made up most of that article.
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Everything older than 2 years gets purged from my inbox automatically. Sad because that's where I keep everything. Slack and Teams don't get purged. Probably happier to get stuff there. The search function is just as good.
Failing all that, I can do a search through my windows desktop. That can take a few days though.
Education is extremely important.
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This isn't a generational thing and there is no office culture war in places that aren't stupid.
I work mostly with boomers and Xers and freaking none of us use email as our daily communication means. This has been in every job I've been in since about 2015.
Chat software is easier, faster, encourages more communication, makes it far easier to collaborate, and works better with file-sharing.
Email is better for team- and department-wide communication. It's closer to a digital newsletter.
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We use Teams a lot. I would love it if email went away, it's the bane of my life, but I'm not seeing any sign of that.
Personally, I like talking to people. Face to face is best. Sorry if that triggers any young people.
LOL, just kidding - as if any young people ever come here.
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We use Teams a lot. I would love it if email went away, it's the bane of my life, but I'm not seeing any sign of that.
Personally, I like talking to people. Face to face is best. Sorry if that triggers any young people.
LOL, just kidding - as if any young people ever come here.
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Revolt:
Personally, I like talking to people. Face to face is best.
I would love talking to people if only they quit saying shit like "actionable learnings," "We're all Swifties in this house" and "that's the unlock we're looking for."
Please love yourself.
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Everything older than 2 years gets purged from my inbox automatically. Sad because that's where I keep everything. Slack and Teams don't get purged. Probably happier to get stuff there. The search function is just as good.
Failing all that, I can do a search through my windows desktop. That can take a few days though.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Revolt:
Personally, I like talking to people. Face to face is best.
I would love talking to people if only they quit saying shit like "actionable learnings," "We're all Swifties in this house" and "that's the unlock we're looking for."
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Revolt:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Revolt:
Personally, I like talking to people. Face to face is best.
I would love talking to people if only they quit saying shit like "actionable learnings," "We're all Swifties in this house" and "that's the unlock we're looking for."
If anybody said anything like any of that to me I would laugh my freaking ass off
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Revolt:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Revolt:
Personally, I like talking to people. Face to face is best.
I would love talking to people if only they quit saying shit like "actionable learnings," "We're all Swifties in this house" and "that's the unlock we're looking for."
If anybody said anything like any of that to me I would laugh my freaking ass off
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Revolt:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Revolt:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Revolt:
Personally, I like talking to people. Face to face is best.
I would love talking to people if only they quit saying shit like "actionable learnings," "We're all Swifties in this house" and "that's the unlock we're looking for."
If anybody said anything like any of that to me I would laugh my freaking ass off
Not when it's your boss's boss's boss.
Please love yourself.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Revolt:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Revolt:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Revolt:
Personally, I like talking to people. Face to face is best.
I would love talking to people if only they quit saying shit like "actionable learnings," "We're all Swifties in this house" and "that's the unlock we're looking for."
If anybody said anything like any of that to me I would laugh my freaking ass off
Not when it's your boss's boss's boss.
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Revolt:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Revolt:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Revolt:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Revolt:
Personally, I like talking to people. Face to face is best.
I would love talking to people if only they quit saying shit like "actionable learnings," "We're all Swifties in this house" and "that's the unlock we're looking for."
If anybody said anything like any of that to me I would laugh my freaking ass off
Not when it's your boss's boss's boss.
Hmmm … if you talk like that, may you will become the boss's boss's boss too!
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Revolt:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Revolt:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Revolt:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Revolt:
Personally, I like talking to people. Face to face is best.
I would love talking to people if only they quit saying shit like "actionable learnings," "We're all Swifties in this house" and "that's the unlock we're looking for."
If anybody said anything like any of that to me I would laugh my freaking ass off
Not when it's your boss's boss's boss.
Hmmm … if you talk like that, may you will become the boss's boss's boss too!
@Axtremus said in The Revolt:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Revolt:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Revolt:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Revolt:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Revolt:
Personally, I like talking to people. Face to face is best.
I would love talking to people if only they quit saying shit like "actionable learnings," "We're all Swifties in this house" and "that's the unlock we're looking for."
If anybody said anything like any of that to me I would laugh my freaking ass off
Not when it's your boss's boss's boss.
Hmmm … if you talk like that, may you will become the boss's boss's boss too!
In all honesty, it would probably help. As it's my ambition to never get promoted I'll just keep on keepin' on, thank you very much.
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What is a swiftie? Is it related to the swifter mop I use to clean the store bathrooms?
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What is a swiftie? Is it related to the swifter mop I use to clean the store bathrooms?
@LuFins-Dad said in The Revolt:
What is a swiftie?
Tom asked reflexively.
(And I'm sorry but that is a good one. Maybe my best ever, I might never top that.)
Please love yourself.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Revolt:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Revolt:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Revolt:
Personally, I like talking to people. Face to face is best.
I would love talking to people if only they quit saying shit like "actionable learnings," "We're all Swifties in this house" and "that's the unlock we're looking for."
If anybody said anything like any of that to me I would laugh my freaking ass off
Not when it's your boss's boss's boss.
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Revolt:
Not when it's your boss's boss's boss.
OK, I'd be laughing on the inside.
My boss is rather prone to using this awful jargon, but you know, I don't want to boil the ocean worrying about it too much. Sometimes these phrases can be useful in a thought shower environment.
I really miss my old company where the majority of people were Liverpudlians and Lancastrians. We didn't make much money, but we sure did have a laugh, not least at this kind of nonsense. Sadly they were bought out by a certain Canadian standards organization after I left, so much of the humour will have gone.
I was only joking
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@LuFins-Dad said in The Revolt:
What is a swiftie?
Tom asked reflexively.
(And I'm sorry but that is a good one. Maybe my best ever, I might never top that.)
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Revolt:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Revolt:
What is a swiftie?
Tom asked reflexively.
(And I'm sorry but that is a good one. Maybe my best ever, I might never top that.)
Perfect. I grew up on that punnery. Also Tom Swift books.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Revolt:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Revolt:
What is a swiftie?
Tom asked reflexively.
(And I'm sorry but that is a good one. Maybe my best ever, I might never top that.)
Perfect. I grew up on that punnery. Also Tom Swift books.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Revolt:
Not when it's your boss's boss's boss.
OK, I'd be laughing on the inside.
My boss is rather prone to using this awful jargon, but you know, I don't want to boil the ocean worrying about it too much. Sometimes these phrases can be useful in a thought shower environment.
I really miss my old company where the majority of people were Liverpudlians and Lancastrians. We didn't make much money, but we sure did have a laugh, not least at this kind of nonsense. Sadly they were bought out by a certain Canadian standards organization after I left, so much of the humour will have gone.
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Revolt:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Revolt:
Not when it's your boss's boss's boss.
OK, I'd be laughing on the inside.
My boss is rather prone to using this awful jargon, but you know, I don't want to boil the ocean worrying about it too much. Sometimes these phrases can be useful in a thought shower environment.
Using those words has consequences.
- They make you weak. Conveying what you mean with words takes thought and effort. It's difficult. Jargon soup blunts your thinking. When you rely on them, you're not in the practice of finding the right words to express yourself, you're in the practice of borrowing clichés that are "good enough." And sure as shit, that will become a habit. Both the words and the thinking.
- They don't do what you think they're doing. You think they help you build a rapport, talk the talk and all that. What they actually label you as someone who isn't comfortable thinking for and expressing yourself honestly, because you're scared to. Use office jargon and everyone knows you to be a follower.
- Unique to me, a big part of my job is understanding what's going on with other people, and communicating with them in the way that they'd prefer to be communicated with. You can't do that when you're in the habit of optimizing SFMs for KPIs and adhering to omni-buckets.
Most people don't care about 1 or 2, which is fine. Jobs are by and large stupid and should be taken only so seriously. But you can't argue that officetalk makes you a sharper thinker or somehow a leader people look up to.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Revolt:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Revolt:
Not when it's your boss's boss's boss.
OK, I'd be laughing on the inside.
My boss is rather prone to using this awful jargon, but you know, I don't want to boil the ocean worrying about it too much. Sometimes these phrases can be useful in a thought shower environment.
Using those words has consequences.
- They make you weak. Conveying what you mean with words takes thought and effort. It's difficult. Jargon soup blunts your thinking. When you rely on them, you're not in the practice of finding the right words to express yourself, you're in the practice of borrowing clichés that are "good enough." And sure as shit, that will become a habit. Both the words and the thinking.
- They don't do what you think they're doing. You think they help you build a rapport, talk the talk and all that. What they actually label you as someone who isn't comfortable thinking for and expressing yourself honestly, because you're scared to. Use office jargon and everyone knows you to be a follower.
- Unique to me, a big part of my job is understanding what's going on with other people, and communicating with them in the way that they'd prefer to be communicated with. You can't do that when you're in the habit of optimizing SFMs for KPIs and adhering to omni-buckets.
Most people don't care about 1 or 2, which is fine. Jobs are by and large stupid and should be taken only so seriously. But you can't argue that officetalk makes you a sharper thinker or somehow a leader people look up to.
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Revolt:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Revolt:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Revolt:
Not when it's your boss's boss's boss.
OK, I'd be laughing on the inside.
My boss is rather prone to using this awful jargon, but you know, I don't want to boil the ocean worrying about it too much. Sometimes these phrases can be useful in a thought shower environment.
Using those words has consequences.
- They make you weak. Conveying what you mean with words takes thought and effort. It's difficult. Jargon soup blunts your thinking. When you rely on them, you're not in the practice of finding the right words to express yourself, you're in the practice of borrowing clichés that are "good enough." And sure as shit, that will become a habit. Both the words and the thinking.
- They don't do what you think they're doing. You think they help you build a rapport, talk the talk and all that. What they actually label you as someone who isn't comfortable thinking for and expressing yourself honestly, because you're scared to. Use office jargon and everyone knows you to be a follower.
- Unique to me, a big part of my job is understanding what's going on with other people, and communicating with them in the way that they'd prefer to be communicated with. You can't do that when you're in the habit of optimizing SFMs for KPIs and adhering to omni-buckets.
Most people don't care about 1 or 2, which is fine. Jobs are by and large stupid and should be taken only so seriously. But you can't argue that officetalk makes you a sharper thinker or somehow a leader people look up to.
I don't really understand where it comes from. Do they go on special courses intended to make them sound clever? It's unusual to hear people with normal (i.e. non-management) jobs use these dreadful pretentious terms.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Revolt:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Revolt:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Revolt:
Not when it's your boss's boss's boss.
OK, I'd be laughing on the inside.
My boss is rather prone to using this awful jargon, but you know, I don't want to boil the ocean worrying about it too much. Sometimes these phrases can be useful in a thought shower environment.
Using those words has consequences.
- They make you weak. Conveying what you mean with words takes thought and effort. It's difficult. Jargon soup blunts your thinking. When you rely on them, you're not in the practice of finding the right words to express yourself, you're in the practice of borrowing clichés that are "good enough." And sure as shit, that will become a habit. Both the words and the thinking.
- They don't do what you think they're doing. You think they help you build a rapport, talk the talk and all that. What they actually label you as someone who isn't comfortable thinking for and expressing yourself honestly, because you're scared to. Use office jargon and everyone knows you to be a follower.
- Unique to me, a big part of my job is understanding what's going on with other people, and communicating with them in the way that they'd prefer to be communicated with. You can't do that when you're in the habit of optimizing SFMs for KPIs and adhering to omni-buckets.
Most people don't care about 1 or 2, which is fine. Jobs are by and large stupid and should be taken only so seriously. But you can't argue that officetalk makes you a sharper thinker or somehow a leader people look up to.
I don't really understand where it comes from. Do they go on special courses intended to make them sound clever? It's unusual to hear people with normal (i.e. non-management) jobs use these dreadful pretentious terms.
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Revolt:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Revolt:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Revolt:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Revolt:
Not when it's your boss's boss's boss.
OK, I'd be laughing on the inside.
My boss is rather prone to using this awful jargon, but you know, I don't want to boil the ocean worrying about it too much. Sometimes these phrases can be useful in a thought shower environment.
Using those words has consequences.
- They make you weak. Conveying what you mean with words takes thought and effort. It's difficult. Jargon soup blunts your thinking. When you rely on them, you're not in the practice of finding the right words to express yourself, you're in the practice of borrowing clichés that are "good enough." And sure as shit, that will become a habit. Both the words and the thinking.
- They don't do what you think they're doing. You think they help you build a rapport, talk the talk and all that. What they actually label you as someone who isn't comfortable thinking for and expressing yourself honestly, because you're scared to. Use office jargon and everyone knows you to be a follower.
- Unique to me, a big part of my job is understanding what's going on with other people, and communicating with them in the way that they'd prefer to be communicated with. You can't do that when you're in the habit of optimizing SFMs for KPIs and adhering to omni-buckets.
Most people don't care about 1 or 2, which is fine. Jobs are by and large stupid and should be taken only so seriously. But you can't argue that officetalk makes you a sharper thinker or somehow a leader people look up to.
I don't really understand where it comes from. Do they go on special courses intended to make them sound clever? It's unusual to hear people with normal (i.e. non-management) jobs use these dreadful pretentious terms.
Buddy of mine studied its history as part of his Master's. At some point according to him, business leaders noticed that scientists had a baked-in air of authority because they used specialized language unique to their field of study. These early bullshit pioneers saw language not as a communication tool, but as leverage for street cred. So they started making up their own.
It used to be, publishing was to blame for most of it. The self-help/daily-schedule-to-greatness section of the bookstore is one of the most competitive in terms of submissions. What people really like to hear is how complex problems can be easily solved by a framework that has a simple name. MBA dipshits read these books instead of real ones and it all trickles down from there.
Nowadays though, you don't need a book, just an asshole with a viral enough YouTube short or what have you. But the same idea applies: whittle down the complexity with a catchy phrase.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Revolt:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Revolt:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Revolt:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Revolt:
Not when it's your boss's boss's boss.
OK, I'd be laughing on the inside.
My boss is rather prone to using this awful jargon, but you know, I don't want to boil the ocean worrying about it too much. Sometimes these phrases can be useful in a thought shower environment.
Using those words has consequences.
- They make you weak. Conveying what you mean with words takes thought and effort. It's difficult. Jargon soup blunts your thinking. When you rely on them, you're not in the practice of finding the right words to express yourself, you're in the practice of borrowing clichés that are "good enough." And sure as shit, that will become a habit. Both the words and the thinking.
- They don't do what you think they're doing. You think they help you build a rapport, talk the talk and all that. What they actually label you as someone who isn't comfortable thinking for and expressing yourself honestly, because you're scared to. Use office jargon and everyone knows you to be a follower.
- Unique to me, a big part of my job is understanding what's going on with other people, and communicating with them in the way that they'd prefer to be communicated with. You can't do that when you're in the habit of optimizing SFMs for KPIs and adhering to omni-buckets.
Most people don't care about 1 or 2, which is fine. Jobs are by and large stupid and should be taken only so seriously. But you can't argue that officetalk makes you a sharper thinker or somehow a leader people look up to.
I don't really understand where it comes from. Do they go on special courses intended to make them sound clever? It's unusual to hear people with normal (i.e. non-management) jobs use these dreadful pretentious terms.
Buddy of mine studied its history as part of his Master's. At some point according to him, business leaders noticed that scientists had a baked-in air of authority because they used specialized language unique to their field of study. These early bullshit pioneers saw language not as a communication tool, but as leverage for street cred. So they started making up their own.
It used to be, publishing was to blame for most of it. The self-help/daily-schedule-to-greatness section of the bookstore is one of the most competitive in terms of submissions. What people really like to hear is how complex problems can be easily solved by a framework that has a simple name. MBA dipshits read these books instead of real ones and it all trickles down from there.
Nowadays though, you don't need a book, just an asshole with a viral enough YouTube short or what have you. But the same idea applies: whittle down the complexity with a catchy phrase.
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Revolt:
It used to be, publishing was to blame for most of it. The self-help/daily-schedule-to-greatness section of the bookstore is one of the most competitive in terms of submissions. What people really like to hear is how complex problems can be easily solved by a framework that has a simple name. MBA dipshits read these books instead of real ones and it all trickles down from there.
I was once forced to read a book entitled 'Who moved my cheese?', which I was informed was a profound piece of philosophical thinking. What it actually was was some dickhead writing this great long-winded parable about a bunch of fucking rodents, with the final message 'change happens, you need to accept it and move on'.
Apparently this book has sold 30 million copies. I do know they gave one to every single person in the company.
Anyway, my friend in sales opened his next meeting with the question 'OK, who cut the cheese?'
