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Fetterman's growing on me

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  • L LuFins Dad
    6 Jan 2024, 19:11

    @Mik said in Fetterman's growing on me:

    Possibly. But I have a sneaking suspicion that the [prevailing belief in Washington is that we will need these people to keep the economy growing and our social programs in place. That would explain why we've done essentially nothing about it for decades.

    And they are right, to a degree as well. We still need to maintain large scale immigration. The numbers need to be brought down a good bit, and we need to have better security and paths to citizenship while respecting the security of our borders.

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    kluurs
    wrote on 6 Jan 2024, 22:32 last edited by
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    @LuFins-Dad said in Fetterman's growing on me:

    @Mik said in Fetterman's growing on me:

    Possibly. But I have a sneaking suspicion that the [prevailing belief in Washington is that we will need these people to keep the economy growing and our social programs in place. That would explain why we've done essentially nothing about it for decades.

    And they are right, to a degree as well. We still need to maintain large scale immigration. The numbers need to be brought down a good bit, and we need to have better security and paths to citizenship while respecting the security of our borders.

    We could start by offering immediate citizenship to the staff and families of Taiwan-based TSMC - heck, pay relocation expenses.

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 6 Jan 2024, 23:29 last edited by
      #26

      That would be way too smart.

      The Brad

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        Mik
        wrote on 6 Jan 2024, 23:57 last edited by
        #27

        It would be smarter and cheaper to just move the population and its key resources here than to go to war over it.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          George K
          wrote on 7 Jan 2024, 01:38 last edited by
          #28

          Not sure if it's legal, but...

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Copper
            wrote on 7 Jan 2024, 02:37 last edited by
            #29

            Why take the land back?

            It’s not going anywhere.

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              George K
              wrote on 8 Jan 2024, 13:44 last edited by
              #30

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 8 Jan 2024, 13:55 last edited by
                #31

                The stock bill has a lot of cosponsors. It's good legislation and needs to be passed.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 8 Jan 2024, 13:56 last edited by Mik 1 Aug 2024, 13:57
                  #32

                  It does indeed. Way, way too much temptation.

                  Should we really look at it, I wonder how many examples we would see on Congresscritters who 'got lucky' om office.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 8 Jan 2024, 13:57 last edited by
                    #33

                    The Pelosi Effect.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      George K
                      wrote on 8 Jan 2024, 13:58 last edited by
                      #34

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • M Mik
                        6 Jan 2024, 23:57

                        It would be smarter and cheaper to just move the population and its key resources here than to go to war over it.

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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote on 9 Jan 2024, 02:16 last edited by
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                        @Mik said in Fetterman's growing on me:

                        It would be smarter and cheaper to just move the population and its key resources here than to go to war over it.

                        LOL

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                          George K
                          wrote on 11 Jan 2024, 12:26 last edited by
                          #36

                          Who is this man?

                          Watch to the end when he talks about genocide, and references South Africa.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 19 Jan 2024, 17:04 last edited by
                            #37

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 19 Jan 2024, 17:07 last edited by Mik
                              #38

                              Seems like a no-brainer to me.

                              Fetterman gets a gold bar star from me.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • M Mik
                                19 Jan 2024, 17:07

                                Seems like a no-brainer to me.

                                Fetterman gets a gold bar star from me.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 19 Jan 2024, 17:09 last edited by
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                                @Mik said in Fetterman's growing on me:

                                Seems like a no-brainer to me.

                                Fetterman gets a gold bar star from me.

                                The surprising thing is that he's saying out loud. He's forcing Schumer's hand.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 19 Jan 2024, 17:18 last edited by
                                  #40

                                  I wonder if his health issues made him decide to speak up about what he really believes? A major scare can push people to re-evaluate their lives.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 19 Jan 2024, 17:22 last edited by
                                    #41

                                    It would be disappointing if it turns out that it was always this easy to sound sane as a politician.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      taiwan_girl
                                      wrote on 25 Jan 2024, 02:40 last edited by
                                      #42

                                      An overwhelming majority of President Joe Biden's fellow Democrats in the Senate on Wednesday backed a statement reiterating U.S. support of a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

                                      The only two Democratic senators who did not sign onto the amendment were John Fetterman and Joe Manchin.
                                      Fetterman has long supported a two-state solution, but he believed the measure should include language stipulating the destruction of Hamas as a precondition to peace, an aide said.

                                      https://www.reuters.com/world/nearly-all-us-senate-democrats-back-two-state-solution-israel-palestinians-2024-01-24/

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 25 Jan 2024, 10:18 last edited by
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                                        Or maybe...Manchin has occupied a fairly unique place in closely divided Senate. It has given him a bit more power than he normally would have had. Maybe Fetterman or somebody on his staff came up with the idea of occupying that same political space, since Manchin is retiring.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          25 Jan 2024, 02:40

                                          An overwhelming majority of President Joe Biden's fellow Democrats in the Senate on Wednesday backed a statement reiterating U.S. support of a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

                                          The only two Democratic senators who did not sign onto the amendment were John Fetterman and Joe Manchin.
                                          Fetterman has long supported a two-state solution, but he believed the measure should include language stipulating the destruction of Hamas as a precondition to peace, an aide said.

                                          https://www.reuters.com/world/nearly-all-us-senate-democrats-back-two-state-solution-israel-palestinians-2024-01-24/

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on 25 Jan 2024, 15:07 last edited by Renauda
                                          #44

                                          @taiwan_girl

                                          Fetterman has long supported a two-state solution, but he believed the measure should include language stipulating the destruction of Hamas as a precondition to peace, an aide said.

                                          A sensible policy position to take. Hamas must not be in any way a part of any future Palestinian identity or state.

                                          Elbows up!

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