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  • KlausK Klaus

    @george-k said in Thinking about a new Mac...:

    The other thing is that rumors say that the new iteration of iMac will be a 24" model. I really, really don't want a smaller screen than I have now.

    True, I also want a 27". If they don't sell a 27" iMac anymore, I'll maybe go for a Mac Mini with external display.

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    #33

    @klaus I have to wonder what the thinking is behind the rumored 24" version. Monitors are getting bigger and bigger.

    Why would they do that?

    ETA: I assume that all I would have to do is hook it up with an HDMI cable, right?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        @jon-nyc how big is that monitor you have?

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        @george-k said in Thinking about a new Mac...:

        @jon-nyc how big is that monitor you have?

        24".

        https://www.apple.com/shop/product/HMUA2VC/A/lg-ultrafine-4k-display

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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          #36

          Funny I decry the creeping screen sizes. I remember being disappointed when they phased out the 21" iMac and I had to buy a 24. Equally when they kept making phones bigger.

          Yeah its easier to read. But I have to carry my phone.

          I guess I could live with a 27" monitor. Just seems so extreme. I'm right here, sitting in front of it.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Funny I decry the creeping screen sizes. I remember being disappointed when they phased out the 21" iMac and I had to buy a 24. Equally when they kept making phones bigger.

            Yeah its easier to read. But I have to carry my phone.

            I guess I could live with a 27" monitor. Just seems so extreme. I'm right here, sitting in front of it.

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            @jon-nyc that monitor is pricey! The 27" runs even more, LOL.

            Perhaps I'll have to reconsider my analysis of "break-even."

            @mark what kind of monitor are you using? My needs are pretty simple, and my eyes are pretty shitty.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              jon-nyc
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              #38

              I just bought a ViewSonic for the boy, I believe on Mark's or Xenon's suggestion.

              I got the 21" for him but their 27" is under $200 I believe.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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                It takes only 3~4 years for Apple to drop support for PowerPC from the time it launched its first Intel Mac. If you plan on keep using your Macs for more than, say, 5 years and plan to keep updating its OS, you pretty much need to go with the Apple silicon now for any new Mac you get. Good luck.

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                • George KG Offline
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                  #40

                  It looks like there's a significant difference between the 7-core GPU and the 8-core GPU in the MacBook Air.

                  About $250 difference.

                  For someone like me, whose needs are pretty basic, is it worth the premium in price?

                  Screen Shot 2020-12-26 at 8.06.00 PM.png

                  Note: The price difference doesn't account for the SSD storage difference.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Eh, never mind.

                    The difference is only $50 when you add the same SSD/

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      @jon-nyc that monitor is pricey! The 27" runs even more, LOL.

                      Perhaps I'll have to reconsider my analysis of "break-even."

                      @mark what kind of monitor are you using? My needs are pretty simple, and my eyes are pretty shitty.

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                      @george-k said in Thinking about a new Mac...:

                      @jon-nyc that monitor is pricey! The 27" runs even more, LOL.

                      Perhaps I'll have to reconsider my analysis of "break-even."

                      @mark what kind of monitor are you using? My needs are pretty simple, and my eyes are pretty shitty.

                      LG 38WK95C-W 38" (Actual size 37.5") WQHD+ 3840 x 1600 HDMI, DisplayPort, USB FreeSync (AMD Adaptive Sync) Built-in Speakers Curved 21:9 UltraWide WQHD+ IPS Curved LED Monitor

                      https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824025890?Item=9SIAC4ZA692767

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                      • markM mark

                        @george-k said in Thinking about a new Mac...:

                        @jon-nyc that monitor is pricey! The 27" runs even more, LOL.

                        Perhaps I'll have to reconsider my analysis of "break-even."

                        @mark what kind of monitor are you using? My needs are pretty simple, and my eyes are pretty shitty.

                        LG 38WK95C-W 38" (Actual size 37.5") WQHD+ 3840 x 1600 HDMI, DisplayPort, USB FreeSync (AMD Adaptive Sync) Built-in Speakers Curved 21:9 UltraWide WQHD+ IPS Curved LED Monitor

                        https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824025890?Item=9SIAC4ZA692767

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                        @mark

                        I've been in movie theaters with smaller screens. lol

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                          Apple M1 MacBook Pro vs. Dell XPS with 11th gen. Intel core i7:

                          Link to video

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                          • AxtremusA Axtremus

                            Apple M1 MacBook Pro vs. Dell XPS with 11th gen. Intel core i7:

                            Link to video

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                            #45

                            @axtremus thanks for linking that.

                            He has another video comparing the MacBook Air with the MacBook Pro (both M1). Very little difference other than screen brightness and better battery life in the Pro.

                            Link to video

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG George K

                              @axtremus thanks for linking that.

                              He has another video comparing the MacBook Air with the MacBook Pro (both M1). Very little difference other than screen brightness and better battery life in the Pro.

                              Link to video

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                              @george-k said in Thinking about a new Mac...:

                              He has another video comparing the MacBook Air with the MacBook Pro (both M1). Very little difference other than screen brightness and better battery life in the Pro.

                              Yeah, when comparing the Air and the Pro, the 'touch bar' and the added weight of the 'Pro' were deal breakers, so I went with the Air. And yes, after equalizing the options to the bigger SSD and 16GB RAM, I paid the $50 extra for the 8th GPU core.

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                              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                @george-k said in Thinking about a new Mac...:

                                He has another video comparing the MacBook Air with the MacBook Pro (both M1). Very little difference other than screen brightness and better battery life in the Pro.

                                Yeah, when comparing the Air and the Pro, the 'touch bar' and the added weight of the 'Pro' were deal breakers, so I went with the Air. And yes, after equalizing the options to the bigger SSD and 16GB RAM, I paid the $50 extra for the 8th GPU core.

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                                @axtremus do you have yours hooked up in a fashion similar to what @jon-nyc did?

                                External monitor, stand, etc.

                                Or do you just use it as a notebook?

                                Looking at the prices of monitors, a 27" monitor with the same specifications as the iMac is quite pricey.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  @George-K, my MacBook Air is for portability.
                                  I have other Macs (mini and Pro) that are “hooked up”.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @axtremus do you have yours hooked up in a fashion similar to what @jon-nyc did?

                                    External monitor, stand, etc.

                                    Or do you just use it as a notebook?

                                    Looking at the prices of monitors, a 27" monitor with the same specifications as the iMac is quite pricey.

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                                    @george-k said in Thinking about a new Mac...:

                                    Looking at the prices of monitors, a 27" monitor with the same specifications as the iMac is quite pricey.

                                    Indeed. But their are no good alternatives. Once spoiled by the Retina display, it’s hard to use anything else. If I really have to have the Apple CPU and a large display, and I want to balance cost, quality, and time to gratification, then I’d most likely just wait another year for an M1 iMac. :man-shrugging:

                                    Without having to read any rumor sites, I think it’s quite safe to count on Apple to release iMacs and 4-port MacBook Pros with its own silicon in 2021. (Less sure about the iMac Pro and the Mac Pro. Apple might wait for another generational jump with even better multi-core/multi-CPU support before putting its own silicon into the Pro desktops/workstations.)

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      @axtremus do you have yours hooked up in a fashion similar to what @jon-nyc did?

                                      External monitor, stand, etc.

                                      Or do you just use it as a notebook?

                                      Looking at the prices of monitors, a 27" monitor with the same specifications as the iMac is quite pricey.

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                                      @george-k said in Thinking about a new Mac...:

                                      Looking at the prices of monitors, a 27" monitor with the same specifications as the iMac is quite pricey.

                                      Which specifications are you looking for, specifically?

                                      Monitors with 4K resolution aren't expensive. 5K is a bit more unusual, but I don't think the difference between 4K and 5K is significant.

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                                      • KlausK Klaus

                                        @george-k said in Thinking about a new Mac...:

                                        Looking at the prices of monitors, a 27" monitor with the same specifications as the iMac is quite pricey.

                                        Which specifications are you looking for, specifically?

                                        Monitors with 4K resolution aren't expensive. 5K is a bit more unusual, but I don't think the difference between 4K and 5K is significant.

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                                        @klaus not looking for so much as looking at.

                                        The iMac display is

                                        *27-inch (diagonal)
                                        *5120‑by‑2880 resolution with support for one billion colors
                                        *500 nits brightness
                                        *Wide color (P3)
                                        *True Tone technology
                                        *Configurable with nano-texture glass

                                        The cheapest comparable LG is $950.

                                        Screen Shot 2020-12-28 at 9.16.55 AM.png

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • KlausK Klaus

                                          @george-k said in Thinking about a new Mac...:

                                          Looking at the prices of monitors, a 27" monitor with the same specifications as the iMac is quite pricey.

                                          Which specifications are you looking for, specifically?

                                          Monitors with 4K resolution aren't expensive. 5K is a bit more unusual, but I don't think the difference between 4K and 5K is significant.

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                                          @klaus said in Thinking about a new Mac...:

                                          @george-k said in Thinking about a new Mac...:

                                          Looking at the prices of monitors, a 27" monitor with the same specifications as the iMac is quite pricey.

                                          Which specifications are you looking for, specifically?

                                          Monitors with 4K resolution aren't expensive. 5K is a bit more unusual, but I don't think the difference between 4K and 5K is significant.

                                          5k has its place:

                                          from: https://www.techradar.com/best/best-5k-and-8k-monitors

                                          So, if you're a video editor working on a 4K project, having a 5K (or even 8K) monitor, means you can view the footage in full resolution, without having the entire screen taken up. You're able to have tools on screen as well, which can help you multitask and edit on the fly - and could prove to dramatically speed up your workflow.

                                          That's particularly true when you have limited real estate or don't have the ability to connect multiple monitors to your workstation.

                                          When looking for 5K monitors (that's 5120 × 2880 pixels), you'll be met with a choice of regular 16:9 aspect ratio, or ultrawide monitors with 21:9 (or above) aspect ratios. Ultrawide monitors are a great choice if you want a multi-monitor experience, but with just a single screen.

                                          Meanwhile, monitors with a regular aspect ratio are generally better for design work as high-DPI modes in Windows and macOS allow for working in scaled resolutions, which lets users zoom in to manipulate images in incredible detail while rendering pin-sharp text and UI elements.

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