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The Curious Case of Claudine Gay

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  • George KG Offline
    George KG Offline
    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #104

    From the Harvard Crimson - Dissent: For Harvard’s Sake, It’s Time to Let Gay Go

    University President Claudine Gay should resign.

    It has been less than half a year since Gay assumed one of the most prestigious posts in all of academia. Since then, scandal after scandal has plagued our beloved university.

    The president of Harvard must be a formidable leader, capable of managing thousands of the brightest minds on the planet, a widely revered international brand, and a multi-billion-dollar bureaucratic behemoth. Further, by way of its field-leading eminences, Harvard exerts influence — and encounters controversy — at the highest levels of politics and policymaking, which often presents challenges for its leader and public face.

    In other words, Harvard’s presidency is no mere empty honor; it is a deeply challenging managerial job with deeply challenging duties, not least of which is navigating national outcry.

    In each of these respects, Gay has failed. The Harvard Corporation must find a leader who can do better.

    More at the link.

    From the RWEC:

    These are two of the Crimson’s editorial board members, who are apparently in the minority about Gay’s status. The fact that anyone at Harvard is still left defending this scholastic and administrative failure is a clear sign that identity has fully trumped individual worth and achievement at this university and the other Poison Ivies. It’s not just the honor code that’s become a farce.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • HoraceH Online
      HoraceH Online
      Horace
      wrote on last edited by
      #105

      I wonder how much truth there is to Obama stepping up to support her, and I wonder how much clout he has.

      I would google it, but I don't really want to google "obama gay".

      Education is extremely important.

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      • HoraceH Horace

        I wonder how much truth there is to Obama stepping up to support her, and I wonder how much clout he has.

        I would google it, but I don't really want to google "obama gay".

        George KG Offline
        George KG Offline
        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #106

        @Horace said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

        I wonder how much truth there is to Obama stepping up to support her, and I wonder how much clout he has.

        I would google it, but I don't really want to google "obama gay".

        And here, right here, is our fist first candidate for Post Of The Year: 2024 Edition.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          @Horace said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

          I wonder how much truth there is to Obama stepping up to support her, and I wonder how much clout he has.

          I would google it, but I don't really want to google "obama gay".

          And here, right here, is our fist first candidate for Post Of The Year: 2024 Edition.

          HoraceH Online
          HoraceH Online
          Horace
          wrote on last edited by
          #107

          @George-K said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

          @Horace said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

          I wonder how much truth there is to Obama stepping up to support her, and I wonder how much clout he has.

          I would google it, but I don't really want to google "obama gay".

          And here, right here, is our fist first candidate for Post Of The Year: 2024 Edition.

          Thanks George. If I win, it’ll help me feel safe. At least until Claudine Gay is in prison.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • X xenon

            What I imagine her resignation will look like:

            In all the decisions I have made in my public life, I have always tried to do what was best for the NationHarvard. Throughout the long and difficult period of WatergateHamasgate, I have felt it was my duty to persevere, to make every possible effort to complete the term of office to which you electedhired me.

            In the past few days, however, it has become evident to me that I no longer have a strong enough political base in the CongressHarvard Corporation to justify continuing that effort. As long as there was such a base, I felt strongly that it was necessary to see the constitutionaleducational process through to its conclusion, that to do otherwise would be unfaithful to the spirit of that deliberately difficult process and a dangerously destabilizing precedent for the future.

            But with the disappearance of that base, I now believe that the constitutionaleducational purpose has been served, and there is no longer a need for the process to be prolonged.

            MikM Away
            MikM Away
            Mik
            wrote on last edited by
            #108

            @xenon said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

            What I imagine her resignation will look like:

            In all the decisions I have made in my public life, I have always tried to do what was best for the NationHarvard. Throughout the long and difficult period of WatergateHamasgate, I have felt it was my duty to persevere, to make every possible effort to complete the term of office to which you electedhired me.

            In the past few days, however, it has become evident to me that I no longer have a strong enough political base in the CongressHarvard Corporation to justify continuing that effort. As long as there was such a base, I felt strongly that it was necessary to see the constitutionaleducational process through to its conclusion, that to do otherwise would be unfaithful to the spirit of that deliberately difficult process and a dangerously destabilizing precedent for the future.

            But with the disappearance of that base, I now believe that the constitutionaleducational purpose has been served, and there is no longer a need for the process to be prolonged.

            Splendid. "I am not a crook plagiarizer".

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Tax the endowment?

              AxtremusA Offline
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              Axtremus
              wrote on last edited by
              #109

              @Jolly said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

              Tax the endowment?

              Ms. Gay got @Jolly to consider a wealth tax!
              It’s a miracle!

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              • jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                #110

                Actually the proposals floating around, to which I imagine Jolly is referring, are to tax their investment income at rates resembling what you and I might pay.

                Right now Harvard pays 1.4% on their endowment income, IIRC.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #111

                  Yep.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #112

                    Well, bye...

                    https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2024/1/3/claudine-gay-resign-harvard/

                    Harvard President Claudine Gay will resign Tuesday afternoon, bringing an end to the shortest presidency in the University's history, according to a person with knowledge of the decision.

                    University Provost Alan M. Garber '76 will serve as Harvard's interim president during a search for Gay's permanent successor, the Harvard Corporation — the University's highest governing body — announced in an email on Tuesday.

                    Harvard spokesperson Jonathan L. Swain declined to comment on Gay's decision to step down.

                    Gay’s resignation — just six months and two days into the presidency — comes amid growing allegations of plagiarism and lasting doubts over her ability to respond to antisemitism on campus after her disastrous congressional testimony Dec. 5.

                    Gay weathered scandal after scandal over her brief tenure, facing national backlash for her administration’s response to Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack and allegations of plagiarism in her scholarly work.

                    Gay is expected to announced her decision to step down to Harvard affiliates in an email later today. The Corporation is also expected to make a statement about the decision.

                    The announcement comes three weeks after the Corporation announced unanimous support for Gay after “extensive deliberations” following the congressional hearing.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • HoraceH Online
                      HoraceH Online
                      Horace
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #113

                      Odds of another woman of color as her successor? Or maybe a white female this time.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #114

                        They forced out that poor black Gay woman…

                        The Brad

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                        • CopperC Offline
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                          Copper
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #115

                          They should pick someone who doesn't have a gender.

                          And maybe handicapped.

                          And morbidly obese.

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                          • CopperC Offline
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                            Copper
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                            #116

                            She'll get a nice package, it will probably include plenty of cnn air time.

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                            • RainmanR Offline
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                              Rainman
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #117

                              Could someone help me find the post where I bet a quarter that she'd be gone within a month?

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                              • George KG Offline
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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #118

                                Of course...

                                "Amidst all of this, it has been distressing to have doubt cast on my commitments to confronting hate and to upholding scholarly rigor — two bedrock values that are fundamental to who I am — and frightening to be subjected to personal attacks and threats fueled by racial animus."

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG Offline
                                  George KG Offline
                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #119

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #120

                                    CNN "analyst" unclear on the concept of what "plagiarism" means.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      kluurs
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                                      #121

                                      “The older I get the more I admire and crave competence, just simple competence, in any field from adultery to zoology.”
                                      ― H.L. Mencken

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                                      • George KG Offline
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                                        George K
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                                        #122

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                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Copper
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                                          #123

                                          Beautiful

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