Hunter Biden Indicted

[George K]

McCarthy:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/12/the-hunter-biden-tax-indictment-is-a-disaster-for-the-white-house/

If you’ve been following the Biden saga, the indictment has some neon-flashing problems for the president. For example, Weiss notes that Burisma, the corrupt Ukrainian energy company, agreed in 2014 to pay then-Vice President Biden’s son $1 million a year. Weiss then deadpans that, in March 2017, “Burisma reduced [Hunter’s] compensation to $500,000 a year[.]” Loud and clear, even if unmentioned, is the reason for the deep pay cut: Once Joe Biden was no longer vice president, as of January 2017, Hunter was no longer as valuable to Burisma — whose top dog, Mykola (Nikolai) Zlochevsky told an FBI informant that he put Hunter on the Burisma board, despite thinking him a dullard, in order to curry favor with Joe Biden, to whom he claimed to have paid $10 million in bribes (for Joe and Hunter combined).

Predictably, Weiss has steered clear of the most serious suspicions of criminal conduct arising out of the Biden influence-peddling scheme — no bribery charges, no money-laundering, no mention of their failure to register as foreign agents. Nevertheless, if the schemes outlined in the tax charges were proved, it would be impossible to avoid evidence of Joe Biden’s participation, to say nothing of the centrality of his political influence to Hunter’s ability to rake in millions of dollars.

The Biden Justice Department tried to bury this case. Weiss was shamed into indicting it because that gambit imploded — because the whistleblower agents went public, and the investigating House committees (building on the scut work previously done by Senators Chuck Grassley and Ron Johnson) proved the jaw-dropping transfers of millions of dollars from shady foreign agents to the Bidens. And now it’s obvious why the administration needed the case buried: Hunter is not the only Biden for whom it is a disaster.

I put the odds of Hunter Biden getting a pardon at the end of next year at near 100%.

[jon-nyc]

I’d say 100% if Biden loses. If Biden wins, he might wait until a verdict and commute any sentence.

[George K]

@jon-nyc said in Hunter Indicted:

I’d say 100% if Biden loses. If Biden wins, he might wait until a verdict and commute any sentence.

Good points.

[Horace]

Is it just taken as a given that any president will pardon family members for any crime, or are their special circumstances here?

[Doctor Phibes]

Presidential pardons for family members and employees should be disallowed. It's banana republic stuff.

[jon-nyc]

@Horace said in Hunter Indicted:

Is it just taken as a given that any president will pardon family members for any crime, or are their special circumstances here?

I think both. There are instances of pardoning family (Bill Clinton did something for his brother, though I think the sentence had been served).

Other presidents have pardoned people close to them who didn’t ‘deserve’ it, IOW there was no argument that they weren’t guilty. One can surmise from that that they likely would have pardoned family members too.

Here the special circumstance is Hunter is the sole surviving child and his life is somewhat precarious as a recovering addict.

[LuFins Dad]

The only friend that I can think of that Trump pardoned was Kodak Black. Apparently they fvck together.

https://www.billboard.com/music/rb-hip-hop/kodak-black-endorses-donald-trump-again-1235453957/

[Copper]

The White House is saying they won't pardon Hunter.

I expect he would pardon Hunter. If I was him, I would. It's just a question of timing.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/president-biden-not-pardon-hunter-scandal-still-case

[jon-nyc]

@LuFins-Dad said in Hunter Indicted:

The only friend that I can think of that Trump pardoned was Kodak Black. Apparently they fvck together.

https://www.billboard.com/music/rb-hip-hop/kodak-black-endorses-donald-trump-again-1235453957/

Roger Stone? Off the top of my head. I’m not sure who else he pardoned.

[LuFins Dad]

@jon-nyc said in Hunter Indicted:

@LuFins-Dad said in Hunter Indicted:

The only friend that I can think of that Trump pardoned was Kodak Black. Apparently they fvck together.

https://www.billboard.com/music/rb-hip-hop/kodak-black-endorses-donald-trump-again-1235453957/

Roger Stone? Off the top of my head. I’m not sure who else he pardoned.

Kodak Black, the rapper that fvcks with him.

[Doctor Phibes]

@jon-nyc said in Hunter Indicted:

@LuFins-Dad said in Hunter Indicted:

The only friend that I can think of that Trump pardoned was Kodak Black. Apparently they fvck together.

https://www.billboard.com/music/rb-hip-hop/kodak-black-endorses-donald-trump-again-1235453957/

Roger Stone? Off the top of my head. I’m not sure who else he pardoned.

Jared Kushner's father Charles, Paul Manafort his 2016 campaign chairman, Oliver Stone.

Does Steve Bannon count as a friend?

[Renauda]

@Doctor-Phibes

Oliver Stone

Putting conspiracy theories to mediocre films is not a pardonable offence even in the USA. It’s just bad film art that makes a lot of $$$ from moviegoers.

I think you meant Roger Stone. IMO, that SOB should do life without parole.

[jon-nyc]

Usually when a president leaves office the big scandal is his pardons.

Trump’s departure was so riddled with criminality he could have pardoned Charles Manson and Ted Bundy posthumously and no one would have noticed.

[George K]

@jon-nyc said in Hunter Indicted:

Usually when a president leaves office the big scandal is his pardons.

I remember the Clinton pardons.

Was there such an outrage with his predecessors?

[Copper]

@George-K said in Hunter Indicted:

I remember the Clinton pardons.

You remember the Ford pardon too.

[George K]

"If he goes to prison, he'll learn that 'The Big Guy' means something very different."

[George K]

Turley comments on what's NOT in the indictment:

https://nypost.com/2023/12/08/opinion/hunter-indictment-designed-specifically-to-avoid-joe-biden/

In a scandal with dozens of references to the presidents and millions sent for influence and access, it took a steady hand for Weiss to avoid ever touching on President Biden’s role.

This was a truly Homeric feat — unseen since the Greek hero Odysseus won a competition by shooting an arrow through the tiny hole in a dozen ax heads.

It takes perfect aim not to avoid any contact. It is itself the very model of evasion.

[Horace]

Imagine how pure and clean Mr Biden's behavior must have been, to not expose himself to any possible mentioning in the indictment.

[George K]

[jon-nyc]

Amateur.