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  • LarryL Larry

    I wonder if it has ever occurred to the Trump bashers that decisions like this involve complex discussions and planning with our top military officials...

    Nah.

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    @Larry said in So, Klaus.:

    I wonder if it has ever occurred to the Trump bashers that decisions like this involve complex discussions and planning with our top military officials...

    Well, yes, it should. But we both know that Trump doesn't do that. He watches something on Fox and based on his impulses of the day he tweets his next policy decision.

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      That's your opinion. Fortunately, your opinion is incorrect.

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        It is my impression that Trump cedes decisions like this largely to his military commanders. Especially when it's not clear that the electorate would care one way or another.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • LarryL Larry

          I wonder if it has ever occurred to the Trump bashers that decisions like this involve complex discussions and planning with our top military officials...

          Nah.

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          @Larry said in So, Klaus.:

          I wonder if it has ever occurred to Trump bashers that decisions like this should involve complex discussions and planning with our top military officials...

          Nah.

          FIFY

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            It is my impression that Trump cedes decisions like this largely to his military commanders. Especially when it's not clear that the electorate would care one way or another.

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            @Horace said in So, Klaus.:

            It is my impression that Trump cedes decisions like this largely to his military commanders. Especially when it's not clear that the electorate would care one way or another.

            Read Bolton’s book. Trump doesn’t cede decisions. Certainly not to military people. He only likes generals until they start working for him. Then he mistrusts them completely. And yes, he likes making Putin happy because he deeply is jealous of successful autocrats.

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              Somebody explain to me why we are keeping troops in Germany in 2020? Are we so afraid of the Germans, that we think there will be an immediate return to militarism as soon as we leave? Do we think the Germans cannot defend the Fulda Gap from the Bear?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                @Horace said in So, Klaus.:

                It is my impression that Trump cedes decisions like this largely to his military commanders. Especially when it's not clear that the electorate would care one way or another.

                Read Bolton’s book. Trump doesn’t cede decisions. Certainly not to military people. He only likes generals until they start working for him. Then he mistrusts them completely. And yes, he likes making Putin happy because he deeply is jealous of successful autocrats.

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                @bachophile said in So, Klaus.:

                @Horace said in So, Klaus.:

                It is my impression that Trump cedes decisions like this largely to his military commanders. Especially when it's not clear that the electorate would care one way or another.

                Read Bolton’s book. Trump doesn’t cede decisions. Certainly not to military people. He only likes generals until they start working for him. Then he mistrusts them completely. And yes, he likes making Putin happy because he deeply is jealous of successful autocrats.

                Why are you taking Bolton's word for it? It's already been proven that it's just a bunch of opinionated crap out of a guy who's pissed off that he got canned. What you described is precisely what Obama did.

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  Somebody explain to me why we are keeping troops in Germany in 2020? Are we so afraid of the Germans, that we think there will be an immediate return to militarism as soon as we leave? Do we think the Germans cannot defend the Fulda Gap from the Bear?

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                  @Jolly said in So, Klaus.:

                  Somebody explain to me why we are keeping troops in Germany in 2020? Are we so afraid of the Germans, that we think there will be an immediate return to militarism as soon as we leave? Do we think the Germans cannot defend the Fulda Gap from the Bear?

                  No, but it really seems to irritate the US that the Germans will invest into and buy Russian gas over US LNG.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                    @Jolly said in So, Klaus.:

                    Somebody explain to me why we are keeping troops in Germany in 2020? Are we so afraid of the Germans, that we think there will be an immediate return to militarism as soon as we leave? Do we think the Germans cannot defend the Fulda Gap from the Bear?

                    No, but it really seems to irritate the US that the Germans will invest into and buy Russian gas over US LNG.

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                    @Renauda said in So, Klaus.:

                    @Jolly said in So, Klaus.:

                    Somebody explain to me why we are keeping troops in Germany in 2020? Are we so afraid of the Germans, that we think there will be an immediate return to militarism as soon as we leave? Do we think the Germans cannot defend the Fulda Gap from the Bear?

                    No, but it really seems to irritate the US that the Germans will invest into and buy Russian gas over US LNG.

                    Certainly. It's an economic competition, waged in a political theater.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      At least you admit it. Still, the Monroe Doctrine really has no play in Europe and US policy towards Russia has been dismal for last twenty odd years. Trump and company haven't improved it in the least.

                      I tend to agree though, American troops should go home.

                      Elbows up!

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