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Hip drop tackles?

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  • MikM Offline
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    Harbaugh is whining because Andrews is likely out for the season. I think I agree with the players association. Impossible to really define, and by the time you call the penalty the damage would already be done.

    I didn't see anything I'd disagree with in Wilson's tackle.

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ravens-john-harbaugh-on-hip-drop-tackle-that-likely-ended-mark-andrews-season-was-it-even-necessary/

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      It's a tackle. As long as you're not trying to spear someone with your helmet or dragging them down with a horsecollar, it's legal.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Try as they may, they'll never make football safe.

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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          Put flags on them. Or make the defenders tie one hand behind their back…

          I also saw that Jackson was limping. The guy has never played a complete season. The AFC North is 1 play away from having $150 Million of cap space gone for the season, and 3 of the teams losing almost all hope for the playoffs as there backup QB’s are rookies by cap necessity.

          30% of the cap being tied up in 1 person just isn’t tenable. I’m wondering if we might see a change in the way the QB is handled? If you might start seeing teams keep a QB through their rookie contract, then just redraft. Invest heavily into people movers on both sides of the ball and one star receiver. With a good system, you can then plug in a Brock Purdy, CJ Stroud, or Will Levis and have success. And can afford a top notch backup like Dalton or Bridgewater…

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            Put flags on them. Or make the defenders tie one hand behind their back…

            I also saw that Jackson was limping. The guy has never played a complete season. The AFC North is 1 play away from having $150 Million of cap space gone for the season, and 3 of the teams losing almost all hope for the playoffs as there backup QB’s are rookies by cap necessity.

            30% of the cap being tied up in 1 person just isn’t tenable. I’m wondering if we might see a change in the way the QB is handled? If you might start seeing teams keep a QB through their rookie contract, then just redraft. Invest heavily into people movers on both sides of the ball and one star receiver. With a good system, you can then plug in a Brock Purdy, CJ Stroud, or Will Levis and have success. And can afford a top notch backup like Dalton or Bridgewater…

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            @LuFins-Dad said in Hip drop tackles?:

            Put flags skirts on them.

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              😄

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                Put flags on them. Or make the defenders tie one hand behind their back…

                I also saw that Jackson was limping. The guy has never played a complete season. The AFC North is 1 play away from having $150 Million of cap space gone for the season, and 3 of the teams losing almost all hope for the playoffs as there backup QB’s are rookies by cap necessity.

                30% of the cap being tied up in 1 person just isn’t tenable. I’m wondering if we might see a change in the way the QB is handled? If you might start seeing teams keep a QB through their rookie contract, then just redraft. Invest heavily into people movers on both sides of the ball and one star receiver. With a good system, you can then plug in a Brock Purdy, CJ Stroud, or Will Levis and have success. And can afford a top notch backup like Dalton or Bridgewater…

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                @LuFins-Dad said in Hip drop tackles?:

                Put flags on them. Or make the defenders tie one hand behind their back…

                I also saw that Jackson was limping. The guy has never played a complete season. The AFC North is 1 play away from having $150 Million of cap space gone for the season, and 3 of the teams losing almost all hope for the playoffs as there backup QB’s are rookies by cap necessity.

                30% of the cap being tied up in 1 person just isn’t tenable. I’m wondering if we might see a change in the way the QB is handled? If you might start seeing teams keep a QB through their rookie contract, then just redraft. Invest heavily into people movers on both sides of the ball and one star receiver. With a good system, you can then plug in a Brock Purdy, CJ Stroud, or Will Levis and have success. And can afford a top notch backup like Dalton or Bridgewater…

                If the NFL continues the NCAA trend...That means mobile QB's who can and will run the ball. Those guys will not have 15-year careers. Their bodies will not take the pounding...When a defender sees a running QB, it's party time. This new breed is not like a Fran Tarkenton. Fran played in the NFL for 18 years and ran around like a banshee, but he scrambled for time and an open receiver, not necessarily for yards. With the RPO of today, the rushing QB is trying to run for yards, depending on what the defense gives him.

                Taysom Hill is a helluva RPO QB. He averages almost five and a half yards per carry, but the Saints know that they can't run him over 8-10 plays per game or he stands a high chance of injury. Part of that is his running style, as he will truck you and grin about it. But any running QB absorbs too many hits.

                So, if the NFL continues to go that way, you're right. Draft a kid like Jayden Daniels who can throw, but who can take it to the house on any given run. Pair him with a top-notch defense and ride him for the five years of his rookie contract. While you're doing that, keep drafting QBs and hope you find another one for cheap.

                Wash, rinse and repeat.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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