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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #21

    Neither has any chance of winning the nomination.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Renauda
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      #22

      All the more reason to throw your support behind one of them. Either one could probably beat the Democrats next November. I don’t think your “rusty old hulk” can do that.

      But then perhaps you, like most populists on either the right or the left, can’t tell the difference between good governance and Romper Room.

      Elbows up!

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        #23

        Almost half of Trump's support could abandon him in the primaries.

        He'd probably still win the nomination. He's that far ahead.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Renauda
          wrote on last edited by Renauda
          #24

          So….Romper Room it is.

          Elbows up!

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            I agree. Wholeheartedly.

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-goes-full-fascist-in-his-rhetoric/ar-AA1jVwZA

            Now, the Leftwing Media has gone gaga over his statement, mainly because A) they must not have anything else to talk about, and B) they are trying their best to rig the next election.

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            George K
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            @Jolly said in You know, I heard the clip where Trump made the statement...:

            I agree. Wholeheartedly.

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-goes-full-fascist-in-his-rhetoric/ar-AA1jVwZA

            Now, the Leftwing Media has gone gaga over his statement, mainly because A) they must not have anything else to talk about, and B) they are trying their best to rig the next election.

            Washington Post:

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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
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              #26

              Standards. Double or nothing.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                Aqua Letifer
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                #27

                I think he's playing with words to be provocative, and oh gee I dunno like before when he did this shit, it can have unintended consequences for the true believers and the country generally.

                We need more humanizing, not less.

                Please love yourself.

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  I think he's playing with words to be provocative, and oh gee I dunno like before when he did this shit, it can have unintended consequences for the true believers and the country generally.

                  We need more humanizing, not less.

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                  Horace
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                  #28

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in You know, I heard the clip where Trump made the statement...:

                  I think he's playing with words to be provocative, and oh gee I dunno like before when he did this shit, it can have unintended consequences for the true believers and the country generally.

                  We need more humanizing, not less.

                  My preferred landing point is to consider everybody deeply flawed, then figure out the ways in which our minds make us so. In its favor, Christianity gets that first thing right. More generalized tribalism is where you consider everybody outside your tribe to be deeply flawed, which is close to the truth, in that if everybody is deeply flawed, so is everybody outside one's tribe. But then tribalism does a faceplant when it tries to figure out why the other tribe is deeply flawed. This manifests in obvious ways, such as the inability of TDS sufferers to describe the motivation for Trump support with anything but the most banal insults.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in You know, I heard the clip where Trump made the statement...:

                    I think he's playing with words to be provocative, and oh gee I dunno like before when he did this shit, it can have unintended consequences for the true believers and the country generally.

                    We need more humanizing, not less.

                    My preferred landing point is to consider everybody deeply flawed, then figure out the ways in which our minds make us so. In its favor, Christianity gets that first thing right. More generalized tribalism is where you consider everybody outside your tribe to be deeply flawed, which is close to the truth, in that if everybody is deeply flawed, so is everybody outside one's tribe. But then tribalism does a faceplant when it tries to figure out why the other tribe is deeply flawed. This manifests in obvious ways, such as the inability of TDS sufferers to describe the motivation for Trump support with anything but the most banal insults.

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                    Aqua Letifer
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                    #29

                    @Horace said in You know, I heard the clip where Trump made the statement...:

                    My preferred landing point is to consider everybody deeply flawed, then figure out the ways in which our minds make us so. In its favor, Christianity gets that first thing right. More generalized tribalism is where you consider everybody outside your tribe to be deeply flawed, which is close to the truth, in that if everybody is deeply flawed, so is everybody outside one's tribe. But then tribalism does a faceplant when it tries to figure out why the other tribe is deeply flawed. This manifests in obvious ways, such as the inability of TDS sufferers to describe the motivation for Trump support with anything but the most banal insults.

                    While I do think it's important to learn how to grieve humanity, I don't think that should extend to having no expectations. Part of the reason is historical. We've survived millennia stabbing, raping, pillaging and starving each other. Today, we're able to, for example, sit in beige cubicles and look up memes on our rectangles in near-total safety precisely because we expect more and more of ourselves.

                    I look at tribalism as a problem to be understood, not a standard to uphold or some ceiling we're incapable of getting past. We're capable, plenty of others do it every day, it makes society better for everyone when we don't let it drive our lives, so that should be the expectation.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      Dude, if he gets reelected, I'm going to have so much fun...

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                      @Jolly said in You know, I heard the clip where Trump made the statement...:

                      Dude, if he gets reelected, I'm going to have so much fun...

                      Season 2 is usually less fun than Season 1 if it’s the same shtick.

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                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                        @Horace said in You know, I heard the clip where Trump made the statement...:

                        My preferred landing point is to consider everybody deeply flawed, then figure out the ways in which our minds make us so. In its favor, Christianity gets that first thing right. More generalized tribalism is where you consider everybody outside your tribe to be deeply flawed, which is close to the truth, in that if everybody is deeply flawed, so is everybody outside one's tribe. But then tribalism does a faceplant when it tries to figure out why the other tribe is deeply flawed. This manifests in obvious ways, such as the inability of TDS sufferers to describe the motivation for Trump support with anything but the most banal insults.

                        While I do think it's important to learn how to grieve humanity, I don't think that should extend to having no expectations. Part of the reason is historical. We've survived millennia stabbing, raping, pillaging and starving each other. Today, we're able to, for example, sit in beige cubicles and look up memes on our rectangles in near-total safety precisely because we expect more and more of ourselves.

                        I look at tribalism as a problem to be understood, not a standard to uphold or some ceiling we're incapable of getting past. We're capable, plenty of others do it every day, it makes society better for everyone when we don't let it drive our lives, so that should be the expectation.

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                        @Aqua-Letifer said in You know, I heard the clip where Trump made the statement...:

                        @Horace said in You know, I heard the clip where Trump made the statement...:

                        My preferred landing point is to consider everybody deeply flawed, then figure out the ways in which our minds make us so. In its favor, Christianity gets that first thing right. More generalized tribalism is where you consider everybody outside your tribe to be deeply flawed, which is close to the truth, in that if everybody is deeply flawed, so is everybody outside one's tribe. But then tribalism does a faceplant when it tries to figure out why the other tribe is deeply flawed. This manifests in obvious ways, such as the inability of TDS sufferers to describe the motivation for Trump support with anything but the most banal insults.

                        While I do think it's important to learn how to grieve humanity, I don't think that should extend to having no expectations. Part of the reason is historical. We've survived millennia stabbing, raping, pillaging and starving each other. Today, we're able to, for example, sit in beige cubicles and look up memes on our rectangles in near-total safety precisely because we expect more and more of ourselves.

                        I look at tribalism as a problem to be understood, not a standard to uphold or some ceiling we're incapable of getting past. We're capable, plenty of others do it every day, it makes society better for everyone when we don't let it drive our lives, so that should be the expectation.

                        That makes sense. I think tribalism is an instinct within us. It can manifest in good and bad ways. Agreed that we need to understand it better.

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in You know, I heard the clip where Trump made the statement...:

                          I think he's playing with words to be provocative, and oh gee I dunno like before when he did this shit, it can have unintended consequences for the true believers and the country generally.

                          We need more humanizing, not less.

                          My preferred landing point is to consider everybody deeply flawed, then figure out the ways in which our minds make us so. In its favor, Christianity gets that first thing right. More generalized tribalism is where you consider everybody outside your tribe to be deeply flawed, which is close to the truth, in that if everybody is deeply flawed, so is everybody outside one's tribe. But then tribalism does a faceplant when it tries to figure out why the other tribe is deeply flawed. This manifests in obvious ways, such as the inability of TDS sufferers to describe the motivation for Trump support with anything but the most banal insults.

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                          Renauda
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                          #32

                          @Horace

                          But then tribalism does a faceplant when it tries to figure out why the other tribe is deeply flawed. This manifests in obvious ways, such as the inability of TDS sufferers to describe the motivation for Trump support with anything but the most banal insults.

                          You call it tribalism. I think of it in terms of Hegelian dialectics. A similar dialectical struggle between antithetical opposites occurred earlier in relation to Madame Clinton and Obama, prior to that the manifested derangement targeted Dick Cheney and Carl Rove. It’s a dialectical struggle arising out of evolving dualities.

                          I find it all quite amusing.

                          Elbows up!

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                            @Jolly said in You know, I heard the clip where Trump made the statement...:

                            Dude, if he gets reelected, I'm going to have so much fun...

                            Season 2 is usually less fun than Season 1 if it’s the same shtick.

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                            Jolly
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                            @xenon said in You know, I heard the clip where Trump made the statement...:

                            @Jolly said in You know, I heard the clip where Trump made the statement...:

                            Dude, if he gets reelected, I'm going to have so much fun...

                            Season 2 is usually less fun than Season 1 if it’s the same shtick.

                            Heads exploding are fun, no matter the season. 😄

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              @xenon said in You know, I heard the clip where Trump made the statement...:

                              @Jolly said in You know, I heard the clip where Trump made the statement...:

                              Dude, if he gets reelected, I'm going to have so much fun...

                              Season 2 is usually less fun than Season 1 if it’s the same shtick.

                              Heads exploding are fun, no matter the season. 😄

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                              Doctor Phibes
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                              @Jolly said in You know, I heard the clip where Trump made the statement...:

                              Heads exploding are fun, no matter the season.

                              You think he'll be assassinated mid-term?

                              I was only joking

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                                Context, lad.

                                In life and interpreting the Bible, context.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  @Jolly said in You know, I heard the clip where Trump made the statement...:

                                  Heads exploding are fun, no matter the season.

                                  You think he'll be assassinated mid-term?

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                                  Renauda
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                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in You know, I heard the clip where Trump made the statement...:

                                  @Jolly said in You know, I heard the clip where Trump made the statement...:

                                  Heads exploding are fun, no matter the season.

                                  You think he'll be assassinated mid-term?

                                  No, the last thing the world needs is for that man to be venerated as a martyr.

                                  Although there would some irony if he were struck by lightening and killed while on the golf course in the sand trap at the 13th hole.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in You know, I heard the clip where Trump made the statement...:

                                    @Jolly said in You know, I heard the clip where Trump made the statement...:

                                    Heads exploding are fun, no matter the season.

                                    You think he'll be assassinated mid-term?

                                    No, the last thing the world needs is for that man to be venerated as a martyr.

                                    Although there would some irony if he were struck by lightening and killed while on the golf course in the sand trap at the 13th hole.

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                                    @Renauda said in You know, I heard the clip where Trump made the statement...:

                                    Although there would some irony if he were struck by lightening and killed while on the golf course in the sand trap at the 13th hole.

                                    That comb-over is light enough.

                                    I'd rather see him in a crew cut.

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