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Speaking of Pianos.

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    Mrs. George's church was donated a Christofori piano. It belonged to a member of the church who died.

    It has been...problematic. During the service last Sunday, middle C just stopped playing. Bb3 got stuck, etc. So far they've put about $2K into this "free" piano.

    I commented that there is an outfit in Washington state that buys inexpensive Chinese pianos and retrofits them with better parts. I think they're in Stanwood.

    For the life of me, I can't remember the name. Help me.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • MikM Offline
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      Del something or other.

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        Actually, Del Fandrich"s brother.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          Actually, Del Fandrich"s brother.

          George KG Offline
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          George K
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          @Jolly aha!

          Are they any good?

          This is "Fandrich and Sons?"

          http://www.fandrich.com/index.php?&location=home

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            I see Darell passed away about 4 years ago:

            https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/darell-fandrich-obituary?pid=193698871

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • KlausK Offline
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              Klaus
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              #6

              Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy a decent piano instead of trying to "improve" a junk piano?

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by Jolly
                #7

                Question is, who made the piano and when was it made? What has been wrong with it in the past?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                  Cristoforis were originally made by Sejung, but production was moved to Pearl River ~ 2009. If the piano is under 12 years old, it should still be covered by a warranty.

                  The Brad

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                  • KlausK Klaus

                    Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy a decent piano instead of trying to "improve" a junk piano?

                    George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    @Klaus said in Speaking of Pianos.:

                    Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy a decent piano instead of trying to "improve" a junk piano?

                    I mentioned that, for the money that they spent "fixing" the "free" piano (actually it's closer to $4K, I think) they would have been better off with a new digital and some amplified speakers.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      @Klaus said in Speaking of Pianos.:

                      Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy a decent piano instead of trying to "improve" a junk piano?

                      I mentioned that, for the money that they spent "fixing" the "free" piano (actually it's closer to $4K, I think) they would have been better off with a new digital and some amplified speakers.

                      JollyJ Offline
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                      @George-K said in Speaking of Pianos.:

                      @Klaus said in Speaking of Pianos.:

                      Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy a decent piano instead of trying to "improve" a junk piano?

                      I mentioned that, for the money that they spent "fixing" the "free" piano (actually it's closer to $4K, I think) they would have been better off with a new digital and some amplified speakers.

                      Tried that, for a church much more financially strapped. Nope, piano or bust.

                      I bought them a nice used K-30. Put the new-style longer music holder on it. They were happy.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @George-K said in Speaking of Pianos.:

                        @Klaus said in Speaking of Pianos.:

                        Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy a decent piano instead of trying to "improve" a junk piano?

                        I mentioned that, for the money that they spent "fixing" the "free" piano (actually it's closer to $4K, I think) they would have been better off with a new digital and some amplified speakers.

                        Tried that, for a church much more financially strapped. Nope, piano or bust.

                        I bought them a nice used K-30. Put the new-style longer music holder on it. They were happy.

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                        George K
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                        @Jolly said in Speaking of Pianos.:

                        Tried that, for a church much more financially strapped. Nope, piano or bust.

                        How come?

                        Put the new-style longer music holder on it. They were happy.

                        Details on that???

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
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                          They wanted an acoustic.

                          As for the music holder...The new Kawais, still have a fold-down holder, but they're a good bit longer. Ordered the new style holder, got some black plugs for the old holes, grabbed a tape and a portable drill and voila!

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • George KG Offline
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                            George K
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                            Digital vs Acoustic.

                            I love my Roland digital. It does everything I want and more. I find that I forget that I have Pianoteq installed, and I just "get used" to the sound it makes. For quiet and silent practice, you really can't beat it - especially at 6 AM when Mrs George is asleep and I'm in the guest room with the Roland.

                            But...

                            I experimented with something new today.

                            I cranked the volume on the Roland WAY up. I tried to make it as loud as my Bohemia for "equivalent" touch.

                            Was it room-filling? Yeah, considering the room is small.

                            Did it sound like a "real" piano? Yeah, kinda-sorta. I never, ever, lost the feeling that I was playing a computer - a very good computer - but it just didn't sound 100% like a "piano."

                            I love, LOVE, my Roland, and I find myself playing and practicing on it at least 80% of the time.

                            But...it's not my grand, and never will be.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • bachophileB Offline
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                              bachophile
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                              The hell with middle c.

                              Play in the more esoteric keys where middle c would be dissonant.

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                              • bachophileB bachophile

                                The hell with middle c.

                                Play in the more esoteric keys where middle c would be dissonant.

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                                Axtremus
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                                @bachophile , or take a tuning hammer to make the middle C semi-permanently dissonant.

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                                  Well tempered

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