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  • MikM Mik

    So he didn't mean to call Zelensky a Nazi, he was just 'talking quickly and oscillated his words'. Riiiiiight. How exactly does one oscillate their words?

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/vivek-ramaswamy-s-campaign-says-he-was-talking-quickly-and-kind-of-oscillated-in-his-words-after-he-appeared-to-call-zelenskyy-a-nazi/ar-AA1jF4Mx?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b2afea02e53e4313846e84d687d2d447&ei=22

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    Doctor Phibes
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    @Mik said in GOP Debate:

    So he didn't mean to call Zelensky a Nazi, he was just 'talking quickly and oscillated his words'.

    To be honest, what with BoJo, Trump, Biden etc. I think I've had enough of people who can't string coherent sentences together being in charge of countries.

    I was only joking

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      Horace
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      There is plenty to be said about Ukraine not being an idyllic liberal democracy, but nobody is saying it. In the transparent battle for the hearts and minds of western voters, messaging is carefully sculpted.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Mik
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        It does seem an unfortunate lack of ability for that particular position. every word out of your mouth is parsed to the nth degree.

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        • HoraceH Horace

          There is plenty to be said about Ukraine not being an idyllic liberal democracy, but nobody is saying it. In the transparent battle for the hearts and minds of western voters, messaging is carefully sculpted.

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          @Horace said in GOP Debate:

          There is plenty to be said about Ukraine not being an idyllic liberal democracy, but nobody is saying it.

          There's plenty of corruption, I'm sure, as there is in most of the countries in that region. It's still a shit-ton better than the barbaric criminal dictatorship in charge of Russia.

          Calling him a Nazi is echoing Russian propaganda. What an amazing coincidence. Oh sorry, total accident, Freudian slip. I meant that guy in Canada.

          I was only joking

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            Renauda
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            There is a choice.

            The West can either support a thoroughly corrupt authoritarian regime - a mafia state- that extorts and makes war with its neighbours and sows political mischief internationally.

            Or

            The West can give its support to a chronically corrupted democracy that has been trying to deal with its past, establish a rule of law and defend its right to exist as a sovereign nation.

            I know which one of the two I will support.

            Elbows up!

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            • HoraceH Horace

              There is plenty to be said about Ukraine not being an idyllic liberal democracy, but nobody is saying it. In the transparent battle for the hearts and minds of western voters, messaging is carefully sculpted.

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              Renauda
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              #32

              @Horace

              There is plenty to be said about Ukraine not being an idyllic liberal democracy, but nobody is saying it.

              Nonsense. Corruption in Ukraine has been openly discussed and addressed since the 90’s. It has prevented Ukraine from becoming a member not only of the EU but a number of other international organisations.

              No it’s not an idyllic liberal democracy by any means. But it is not moving towards becoming a totalitarian mafia state like its hegemonic neighbour.

              Elbows up!

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                Horace
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                #33

                Ramaswamy’s team didn’t include the Haley jabs in their best of compilation. Pretty good compilation.

                Link to video

                Education is extremely important.

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                • RenaudaR Renauda

                  @Horace

                  There is plenty to be said about Ukraine not being an idyllic liberal democracy, but nobody is saying it.

                  Nonsense. Corruption in Ukraine has been openly discussed and addressed since the 90’s. It has prevented Ukraine from becoming a member not only of the EU but a number of other international organisations.

                  No it’s not an idyllic liberal democracy by any means. But it is not moving towards becoming a totalitarian mafia state like its hegemonic neighbour.

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                  Horace
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                  @Renauda said in GOP Debate:

                  @Horace

                  There is plenty to be said about Ukraine not being an idyllic liberal democracy, but nobody is saying it.

                  Nonsense. Corruption in Ukraine has been openly discussed and addressed since the 90’s. It has prevented Ukraine from becoming a member not only if the EU but a number of international organizations.

                  No it’s not an idyllic liberal democracy by any means. But it is not moving towards becoming a totalitarian mafia state like its hegemonic neighbour.

                  I am sure it’s a hotly discussed topic in your circles. The subject doesn’t come up in the messaging that trickles its way to me, except from those who don’t mind being labeled pro Russia agents.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    Renauda
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                    #35

                    Perhaps you should get out more.

                    Elbows up!

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                      Horace
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                      #36

                      It doesn’t pay to leave the house.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        Renauda
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                        #37

                        It doesn’t pay to leave the house.

                        So I take it you plan to mail in your ballot in next year’s election.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                          It doesn’t pay to leave the house.

                          So I take it you plan to mail in your ballot in next year’s election.

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                          Horace
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                          @Renauda said in GOP Debate:

                          So I take it you plan to mail in your ballot in next year’s election.

                          I will report back here the minute I vote, to become awash in the respect and praise of those who’ve doubted me.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            @Renauda said in GOP Debate:

                            So I take it you plan to mail in your ballot in next year’s election.

                            I will report back here the minute I vote, to become awash in the respect and praise of those who’ve doubted me.

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                            Renauda
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                            @Horace

                            You’re safe now in Texas. You can vote Republican without the least fear of shaming, shunning or Black Panthers blocking your polling station.

                            If I were an American I would have absolutely no qualms about marking my X next to Nikki Hayley’s name on the ballot either.

                            Elbows up!

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                              Mik
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                              From your lips to God's ear. Her clarity of thought, perception and vision is remarkable. Also her courage.

                              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                She's certainly infinitely preferable to the alternative.

                                Better qualified, too, despite the fact that he's already done the job 🙂

                                I was only joking

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                                • RenaudaR Renauda

                                  @Horace

                                  You’re safe now in Texas. You can vote Republican without the least fear of shaming, shunning or Black Panthers blocking your polling station.

                                  If I were an American I would have absolutely no qualms about marking my X next to Nikki Hayley’s name on the ballot either.

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                                  Copper
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #42

                                  @Renauda said in GOP Debate:

                                  You can vote Republican without the least fear of shaming, shunning or Black Panthers blocking your polling station.

                                  In order to avoid this kind of thing, I believe the democrats have a service that will mail your ballot for you.

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    Forgive me if this has been posted but apparently ABC asked Vivek before the debate what his goals were and he said “to be unhinged”.

                                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Forgive me if this has been posted but apparently ABC asked Vivek before the debate what his goals were and he said “to be unhinged”.

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                                      Renauda
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                                      @jon-nyc

                                      Well, I think he is that.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        Nice to see a politician keeping their promises for once.

                                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          @Renauda said in GOP Debate:

                                          So I take it you plan to mail in your ballot in next year’s election.

                                          I will report back here the minute I vote, to become awash in the respect and praise of those who’ve doubted me.

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                                          @Horace said in GOP Debate:

                                          @Renauda said in GOP Debate:

                                          So I take it you plan to mail in your ballot in next year’s election.

                                          I will report back here the minute I vote, to become awash in the respect and praise of those who’ve doubted me.

                                          I was simply too busy yesterday to make it to the polls, but in my absence, my fellow Texans voted for the following two things:

                                          • Texas constitutional amendment to prohibit wealth taxes
                                          • A reduction of property taxes which in my case will amount to $200/month

                                          The GOP continues to establish itself as the party of social justice. We lowered unjust taxes, and prohibited any future attempts to unjustly tax those who contribute the most to society. It makes my heart proud. The right side of history feels... just right.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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