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  • MikM Offline
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    To try to judge intelligence by education level is quite foolish. Go strike a deal with a farmer. When he agrees, then you will know you have been well and truly screwed.

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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    • MikM Mik

      To try to judge intelligence by education level is quite foolish. Go strike a deal with a farmer. When he agrees, then you will know you have been well and truly screwed.

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      @Mik said in The IQ Test:

      To try to judge intelligence by education level is quite foolish. Go strike a deal with a farmer. When he agrees, then you will know you have been well and truly screwed.

      IQ, as opposed to the woolly concept of intelligence, shows a positive correlation with education, which is hardly surprising.

      However, as I've said before, if you really want to score well on IQ tests the best way is probably to practice doing IQ tests.

      I was only joking

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        @Aqua-Letifer said in The IQ Test:

        I sure as hell wouldn't.

        I'm speaking figuratively. Having a high IQ isn't very helpful if you're an inveterate lazy bastard with borderline ADHD. Or so I imagine.

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        @Doctor-Phibes said in The IQ Test:

        @Aqua-Letifer said in The IQ Test:

        I sure as hell wouldn't.

        I'm speaking figuratively. Having a high IQ isn't very helpful if you're an inveterate lazy bastard with borderline ADHD. Or so I imagine.

        Well for me I'm just saying I'd rather have to make Sif laugh than be in a PhD program or work in biotech. For starters I'd have to get presentable shirts and shit.

        Please love yourself.

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          #9

          My dream job would be doing medical experiments on people with degrees in English. I'd be willing to buy a couple of shirts and possibly even some slacks.

          I was only joking

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            My dream job would be doing medical experiments on people with degrees in English. I'd be willing to buy a couple of shirts and possibly even some slacks.

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            Aqua Letifer
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            @Doctor-Phibes said in The IQ Test:

            My dream job would be doing medical experiments on people with degrees in English.

            Let me know what you find out.

            My degree's not even that relevant, sorry.

            Please love yourself.

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @Doctor-Phibes said in The IQ Test:

              My dream job would be doing medical experiments on people with degrees in English.

              Let me know what you find out.

              My degree's not even that relevant, sorry.

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              Doctor Phibes
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              @Aqua-Letifer said in The IQ Test:

              My degree's not even that relevant, sorry.

              I was going to say poetry, but I thought it would be rude.

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @Aqua-Letifer said in The IQ Test:

                My degree's not even that relevant, sorry.

                I was going to say poetry, but I thought it would be rude.

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                Aqua Letifer
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                #12

                @Doctor-Phibes said in The IQ Test:

                @Aqua-Letifer said in The IQ Test:

                My degree's not even that relevant, sorry.

                I was going to say poetry, but I thought it would be rude.

                Hey, at least it isn't Poetry Studies.

                Please love yourself.

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in The IQ Test:

                  My dream job would be doing medical experiments on people with degrees in English.

                  Let me know what you find out.

                  My degree's not even that relevant, sorry.

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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  @Aqua-Letifer said in The IQ Test:

                  Let me know what you find out.

                  The main goal would be to see how much shit people who have elected to avoid working in the rat race are willing to put up with for differing amounts of money. At the end of it, I'd ask them whether being deliberately infected with botulism was preferable to getting a job where you have to buy some shirts.

                  Of course, it's a pipe dream. My main goal at this point is to survive another 5 years without people realizing how lazy I am or try to medicate me for ADHD.

                  I was only joking

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in The IQ Test:

                    Let me know what you find out.

                    The main goal would be to see how much shit people who have elected to avoid working in the rat race are willing to put up with for differing amounts of money. At the end of it, I'd ask them whether being deliberately infected with botulism was preferable to getting a job where you have to buy some shirts.

                    Of course, it's a pipe dream. My main goal at this point is to survive another 5 years without people realizing how lazy I am or try to medicate me for ADHD.

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                    #14

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The IQ Test:

                    … realizing how lazy I am or try to medicate me for ADHD.

                    Is either bad?

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @Mik said in The IQ Test:

                      To try to judge intelligence by education level is quite foolish. Go strike a deal with a farmer. When he agrees, then you will know you have been well and truly screwed.

                      IQ, as opposed to the woolly concept of intelligence, shows a positive correlation with education, which is hardly surprising.

                      However, as I've said before, if you really want to score well on IQ tests the best way is probably to practice doing IQ tests.

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                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The IQ Test:

                      However, as I've said before, if you really want to score well on IQ tests the best way is probably to practice doing IQ tests.

                      True enough, though it doesn't help much. And the implication that there's a good correlation between practice time and scores, would probably not pan out.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        LuFins Dad
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                        #16

                        Uhm, can we talk about Sean for a minute?

                        The Brad

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in The IQ Test:

                          Let me know what you find out.

                          The main goal would be to see how much shit people who have elected to avoid working in the rat race are willing to put up with for differing amounts of money. At the end of it, I'd ask them whether being deliberately infected with botulism was preferable to getting a job where you have to buy some shirts.

                          Of course, it's a pipe dream. My main goal at this point is to survive another 5 years without people realizing how lazy I am or try to medicate me for ADHD.

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                          Aqua Letifer
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                          @Doctor-Phibes said in The IQ Test:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in The IQ Test:

                          Let me know what you find out.

                          The main goal would be to see how much shit people who have elected to avoid working in the rat race are willing to put up with for differing amounts of money. At the end of it, I'd ask them whether being deliberately infected with botulism was preferable to getting a job where you have to buy some shirts.

                          I've actually done some fieldwork on this. It turns out that it's not actually the choice it appears to be. Some folks actually do indeed listen to their puritanical parents and try to join the rat race—and end up being the very first person in a 35-year-old program to be shit-canned for "lacking professional demeanor."

                          Of course, it's a pipe dream. My main goal at this point is to survive another 5 years without people realizing how lazy I am or try to medicate me for ADHD.

                          C'mon over to my side of things. I don't think I work with a single colleague who isn't spectrumatic in some way. It's actually the expectation.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in The IQ Test:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in The IQ Test:

                            Let me know what you find out.

                            The main goal would be to see how much shit people who have elected to avoid working in the rat race are willing to put up with for differing amounts of money. At the end of it, I'd ask them whether being deliberately infected with botulism was preferable to getting a job where you have to buy some shirts.

                            I've actually done some fieldwork on this. It turns out that it's not actually the choice it appears to be. Some folks actually do indeed listen to their puritanical parents and try to join the rat race—and end up being the very first person in a 35-year-old program to be shit-canned for "lacking professional demeanor."

                            Of course, it's a pipe dream. My main goal at this point is to survive another 5 years without people realizing how lazy I am or try to medicate me for ADHD.

                            C'mon over to my side of things. I don't think I work with a single colleague who isn't spectrumatic in some way. It's actually the expectation.

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            @Aqua-Letifer said in The IQ Test:

                            C'mon over to my side of things. I don't think I work with a single colleague who isn't spectrumatic in some way. It's actually the expectation.

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                            I was only joking

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                              Having a median IQ at a large corporation, I mean whatever that median happens to be at any given corporation, can be very comfortable. If you're an outlier problem solver, it just increases the difficulty of the social problems you'll need to navigate.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                The worst kind of people to work with are the ones who think they're outlier problem solvers but in reality are just a fucking nuisance and can't follow standard processes. Dunning Kruger at work.

                                I was only joking

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                                  The worst kind of people to work with are the ones who think they're outlier problem solvers but in reality are just a fucking nuisance and can't follow standard processes. Dunning Kruger at work.

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                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in The IQ Test:

                                  The worst kind of people to work with are the ones who think they're outlier problem solvers but in reality are just a fucking nuisance and can't follow standard processes. Dunning Kruger at work.

                                  Yeah I know. Also, intelligence is meaningless!

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    If I was hiring, I would likely hire the Marine first. High ASVAB, and sorry, but he nailed it. It measures your ability to learn and reason, and that is the highest indicator of intelligence. In addition, serving in the military does generally mean an ability to follow instruction, work well in a team, and some degree of problem solving.

                                    Ray would have been 2nd. He’s smart, and since he’s Chinese, he can probably play the hell out of a piano.

                                    3 would be a tossup between the dyslexic girl and Sean. Overcoming dyslexia is indicative of a high degree of intelligence and perseverance. At the same time, her bringing it up constantly would be annoying.

                                    I’m not surprised the PhD came in last.

                                    The Brad

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                                      The military test is literally an IQ test, intentionally designed as such. That guy's score maps to his IQ score. Apparently they are measuring the same meaningless thing.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in The IQ Test:

                                        The worst kind of people to work with are the ones who think they're outlier problem solvers but in reality are just a fucking nuisance and can't follow standard processes. Dunning Kruger at work.

                                        Yeah I know. Also, intelligence is meaningless!

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                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        @Horace said in The IQ Test:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in The IQ Test:

                                        The worst kind of people to work with are the ones who think they're outlier problem solvers but in reality are just a fucking nuisance and can't follow standard processes. Dunning Kruger at work.

                                        Yeah I know. Also, intelligence is meaningless!

                                        No, it's not. But I've had to deal with more than one person who thinks they're an outlier type and leave a complete shit-show in their wake when they leave. Cleaning up after a guy who thought he was too good for this terrible job and was so much smarter than everybody else is unpleasant. The only small comfort is watching them continue to crash and burn by tracking their subsequent LinkedIn profile.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                          @Horace said in The IQ Test:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in The IQ Test:

                                          The worst kind of people to work with are the ones who think they're outlier problem solvers but in reality are just a fucking nuisance and can't follow standard processes. Dunning Kruger at work.

                                          Yeah I know. Also, intelligence is meaningless!

                                          No, it's not. But I've had to deal with more than one person who thinks they're an outlier type and leave a complete shit-show in their wake when they leave. Cleaning up after a guy who thought he was too good for this terrible job and was so much smarter than everybody else is unpleasant. The only small comfort is watching them continue to crash and burn by tracking their subsequent LinkedIn profile.

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                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in The IQ Test:

                                          @Horace said in The IQ Test:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in The IQ Test:

                                          The worst kind of people to work with are the ones who think they're outlier problem solvers but in reality are just a fucking nuisance and can't follow standard processes. Dunning Kruger at work.

                                          Yeah I know. Also, intelligence is meaningless!

                                          No, it's not. But I've had to deal with more than one person who thinks they're an outlier type and leave a complete shit-show in their wake when they leave. Cleaning up after a guy who thought he was too good for this terrible job and was so much smarter than everybody else is unpleasant. The only small comfort is watching them continue to crash and burn by tracking their subsequent LinkedIn profile.

                                          Doesn't sound like they worked very smart.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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