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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 8 Nov 2023, 17:29 last edited by jon-nyc 11 Aug 2023, 17:30
    #38

    Get an electric awning for outside the window and lower it in the mornings. They’re compact and not very visible when rolled up.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • L LuFins Dad
      8 Nov 2023, 17:29

      Are the windows UV treated? I would also consider purchasing a hydrometer that measures AND RECORDS the temp and humidity and put it on a table smack in the middle and see how much variation you see over the course of the day.

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      Horace
      wrote on 8 Nov 2023, 17:34 last edited by
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      @LuFins-Dad said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

      Are the windows UV treated? I would also consider purchasing a hydrometer that measures AND RECORDS the temp and humidity and put it on a table smack in the middle and see how much variation you see over the course of the day.

      They aren't UV treated. Will do about the hydrometer.

      Education is extremely important.

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        8 Nov 2023, 17:29

        Get an electric awning for outside the window and lower it in the mornings. They’re compact and not very visible when rolled up.

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        Horace
        wrote on 8 Nov 2023, 17:37 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

        Get an electric awning for outside the window and lower it in the mornings. They’re compact and not very visible when rolled up.

        There's a covered porch there already. The direct sun I'm talking about is the near-horizontal kind. It's an east-facing window.

        Education is extremely important.

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 8 Nov 2023, 17:41 last edited by
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          My biggest concern is refraction. If the light is hitting the windows in a manner that causes it to be focused in a particular area, that could be bad. Since the windows aren’t UV treated, I would consider getting film for them.

          The Brad

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            Copper
            wrote on 8 Nov 2023, 18:17 last edited by
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            https://www.serenashades.com/products/#smart-wood-blinds

            Smart Wood Blinds

            Link to video

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              Jolly
              wrote on 8 Nov 2023, 19:48 last edited by
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              I'm in Copper's camp. Some blinds will look nice and not be too expensive.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • J Jolly
                8 Nov 2023, 19:48

                I'm in Copper's camp. Some blinds will look nice and not be too expensive.

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                George K
                wrote on 8 Nov 2023, 20:26 last edited by
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                @Jolly said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

                Some blinds will look nice and not be too expensive.

                The blinds that Copper recommended are about $1050 per window in my living room.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • G George K
                  8 Nov 2023, 20:26

                  @Jolly said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

                  Some blinds will look nice and not be too expensive.

                  The blinds that Copper recommended are about $1050 per window in my living room.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 8 Nov 2023, 21:16 last edited by
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                  @George-K said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

                  @Jolly said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

                  Some blinds will look nice and not be too expensive.

                  The blinds that Copper recommended are about $1050 per window in my living room.

                  Yeah, but Copper has enough money to burn a wet mule on a windy day.

                  You can get the same look much cheaper.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 8 Nov 2023, 21:23 last edited by
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                    Well I have blinds. Just a shame to use them. Good sun and view is the whole point of those windows.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 8 Nov 2023, 23:03 last edited by
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                      That oak Kawai ain't a bad view in and of itself...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        Rainman
                        wrote on 9 Nov 2023, 02:42 last edited by
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                        Horace, you could always use that oak Kawai for firewood if necessary, like a really cold day. I think oak is good firewood. Maybe ask Jolly.

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                        • R Rainman
                          9 Nov 2023, 02:42

                          Horace, you could always use that oak Kawai for firewood if necessary, like a really cold day. I think oak is good firewood. Maybe ask Jolly.

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 9 Nov 2023, 03:07 last edited by
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                          @Rainman said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

                          Horace, you could always use that oak Kawai for firewood if necessary, like a really cold day. I think oak is good firewood. Maybe ask Jolly.

                          Well, it’s only a veneer. The rim is Matoa, a whole lot of glue, and a third wood lamination, likely luan mahogany.

                          The Brad

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                            Rainman
                            wrote on 9 Nov 2023, 07:23 last edited by
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                            My first grand was a Kawai 5'8". It was a nice instrument, had a split in the rim you could only see from underneath, and Kawai, through the dealership of course, immediately replaced the piano. No excuses, no spin, no "would you take cash back" or other nonsense. Always have liked the brand, even though I may say stupid stuff along the way. I even had to teach class piano years ago, and it was on a Kawai setup. Pretty cool setup, can't imagine how far they've come since those days. I suppose they still have class piano at the college/university level. Helps pay the bills.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 10 Nov 2023, 02:03 last edited by George K 11 Oct 2023, 02:05
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                              Digital vs Acoustic.

                              I love my Roland digital. It does everything I want and more. The action's great. I find that I forget that I have Pianoteq installed, and I just "get used" to the sound it makes. For quiet and silent practice, you really can't beat it - especially at 6 AM when Mrs George is asleep and I'm in the guest room with the Roland.

                              But...

                              I experimented with something new today.

                              I cranked the volume on the Roland WAY up. I tried to make it as loud as my Bohemia for "equivalent" touch.

                              Was it room-filling? Yeah, considering the room is small.

                              Did it sound like a "real" piano? Yeah, kinda-sorta. I never, ever, lost the feeling that I was playing a computer - a very good computer - but it just didn't sound 100% like a "piano."

                              Granted, with headphones - even cheap headphones - it's better. But it's not the same. Not the same.

                              I love, LOVE, my Roland, and I find myself playing and practicing on it at least 80% of the time. I have no regrets getting it. It more than suits my needs.

                              But...it's not my grand, and never will be.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 10 Nov 2023, 02:05 last edited by
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                                I will use headphones 100% of the time I use the digital.

                                I have two offers out at $800 for Kawai kdp120s on Facebook marketplace. Thanks LD for the suggestion. Neither wants to accept, but I don’t think they will get as much as they are asking from anybody else.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 10 Nov 2023, 02:16 last edited by
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                                  @Horace , you have a Bohemia upright, iirc?

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • G George K
                                    10 Nov 2023, 02:16

                                    @Horace , you have a Bohemia upright, iirc?

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 10 Nov 2023, 02:21 last edited by
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                                    @George-K said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

                                    @Horace , you have a Bohemia upright, iirc?

                                    Schulz pollman

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • H Horace
                                      10 Nov 2023, 02:21

                                      @George-K said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

                                      @Horace , you have a Bohemia upright, iirc?

                                      Schulz pollman

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 10 Nov 2023, 02:26 last edited by
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                                      @Horace ah! That's right. Now I remember.

                                      Was it @mark who bought a Bohemia upright for his mother, then?

                                      Anyhow, I love my Roland. For me, it was the right choice at the right time.

                                      And, for years, my cheap(er) Kawai served me well, until I got more serious and I wore out the keybed.

                                      For silent practice, as long as you don't demand too much of it, my gut says you'll be fine.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • G George K
                                        10 Nov 2023, 02:26

                                        @Horace ah! That's right. Now I remember.

                                        Was it @mark who bought a Bohemia upright for his mother, then?

                                        Anyhow, I love my Roland. For me, it was the right choice at the right time.

                                        And, for years, my cheap(er) Kawai served me well, until I got more serious and I wore out the keybed.

                                        For silent practice, as long as you don't demand too much of it, my gut says you'll be fine.

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 10 Nov 2023, 02:28 last edited by
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                                        @George-K said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

                                        @Horace ah! That's right. Now I remember.

                                        Was it @mark who bought a Bohemia upright for his mother, then?

                                        Anyhow, I love my Roland. For me, it was the right choice at the right time.

                                        And, for years, my cheap(er) Kawai served me well, until I got more serious and I wore out the keybed.

                                        For silent practice, as long as you don't demand too much of it, my gut says you'll be fine.

                                        Yes I think digitals are all going to be serviceable. I will get whatever pops up on the marketplace if it's the right price. Or eventually I'll get the roland new.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • H Horace
                                          10 Nov 2023, 02:28

                                          @George-K said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

                                          @Horace ah! That's right. Now I remember.

                                          Was it @mark who bought a Bohemia upright for his mother, then?

                                          Anyhow, I love my Roland. For me, it was the right choice at the right time.

                                          And, for years, my cheap(er) Kawai served me well, until I got more serious and I wore out the keybed.

                                          For silent practice, as long as you don't demand too much of it, my gut says you'll be fine.

                                          Yes I think digitals are all going to be serviceable. I will get whatever pops up on the marketplace if it's the right price. Or eventually I'll get the roland new.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 10 Nov 2023, 02:34 last edited by
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                                          @Horace said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

                                          digitals are all going to be serviceable.

                                          You mean disposable.

                                          When my Kawai acted up, and I got serious about playing again, typical comments from sales and service people included comments like "Wow. 15 years is a good run for your Kawai ES-200."

                                          Most repair/sales people I spoke with said that I should not expect more than 10 years of service for a digital. So, even if you spend $3K, that's still only $240 a month. Most people, most SERIOUS people, spend more than that on lessons.

                                          If you're serious, plan on replacing the digital every now and then. At my age (73) replacement is not as much of a consideration as repairability. The Roland's 10 year in-home warranty was a huge factor in my decision-making.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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