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Thinking of getting a digital piano

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    George K
    wrote on 19 Nov 2023, 14:38 last edited by
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    The only thing I don't like about mine is that the earpiece is a bit too small. I might consider replacing them with something that's more "over the ear-ish".

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 19 Nov 2023, 14:54 last edited by
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      Mine are very much that. i think they were pretty high end when i got them in 2005. But they're still a good seller, you can see them stocked at bricks and mortar retailers to this day.

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      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • J jon-nyc
        19 Nov 2023, 14:54

        Mine are very much that. i think they were pretty high end when i got them in 2005. But they're still a good seller, you can see them stocked at bricks and mortar retailers to this day.

        IMG_1194.jpeg

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        Horace
        wrote on 19 Nov 2023, 15:00 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

        Mine are very much that. i think they were pretty high end when i got them in 2005. But they're still a good seller, you can see them stocked at bricks and mortar retailers to this day.

        IMG_1194.jpeg

        Those are the ones I'm upgrading from. I'm hoping to be able to hear a difference, but we'll see. The Sennheiser 650 will be more comfortable in any case.

        Education is extremely important.

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          George K
          wrote on 19 Nov 2023, 15:45 last edited by
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          Those Sennheisers are pricey!

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • G George K
            19 Nov 2023, 15:45

            Those Sennheisers are pricey!

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            Horace
            wrote on 19 Nov 2023, 15:48 last edited by
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            @George-K said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

            Those Sennheisers are pricey!

            the software, headphones, and audio interface are costing as much as the piano.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • H Horace
              19 Nov 2023, 15:48

              @George-K said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

              Those Sennheisers are pricey!

              the software, headphones, and audio interface are costing as much as the piano.

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              George K
              wrote on 19 Nov 2023, 16:03 last edited by
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              @Horace said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

              @George-K said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

              Those Sennheisers are pricey!

              the software, headphones, and audio interface are costing as much as the piano.

              Yeah. How about that?

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • G George K
                19 Nov 2023, 16:03

                @Horace said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

                @George-K said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

                Those Sennheisers are pricey!

                the software, headphones, and audio interface are costing as much as the piano.

                Yeah. How about that?

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                Horace
                wrote on 19 Nov 2023, 16:17 last edited by
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                @George-K said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

                @Horace said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

                @George-K said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

                Those Sennheisers are pricey!

                the software, headphones, and audio interface are costing as much as the piano.

                Yeah. How about that?

                Rhetorical cost saving measures are worth what any other rhetoric is worth.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 19 Nov 2023, 16:18 last edited by
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                  I bought the Petrof pianos yesterday. Now my office is rather cluttered with 5 concert grand pianos.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    kluurs
                    wrote on 19 Nov 2023, 16:20 last edited by
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                    Those aren't necessarily my best headphones. I have a pair of Stax electostatic ear-speakers and with a Stax Class A amplifier that sound nice as well. Sadly, I spend the majority of my time listening to music through my iPhone and my bone conduction headphones. I have a pair of inexpensive Sennheisers I use with the bedroom stereo.

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                      Rainman
                      wrote on 19 Nov 2023, 16:31 last edited by
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                      I don't use headphones.
                      If I have to listen to my crappy playing, so does everyone else.

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                        Copper
                        wrote on 19 Nov 2023, 17:00 last edited by
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                        I use headphones to cancel the noise when I mow the lawn or use the leaf blower.

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 21 Nov 2023, 02:54 last edited by
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                          I ordered two headphones from Amazon by accident. Actually, I ordered one, then reconsidered, canceled, and ordered another. But the cancelation didn't go through in time, and both were delivered. The first was Sennheiser 560-S, the second was Sennheiser 650. I thought the 650 would be better, but it turns out I like the less expensive 560-S more, and the difference was clear. Hate to take advantage of all these free returns. But I'll get over it.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 21 Nov 2023, 03:03 last edited by George K
                            #111

                            Amazon returns are Da Bomb.

                            As long as it's legit - "I didn't like them" - there's usually no problem.

                            How's the piano? Still happy?

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Horace
                              wrote on 21 Nov 2023, 03:09 last edited by
                              #112

                              PIano's great! The Petrof Mistral "warm" setting is excellent. I set the velocity curve to produce louder noises with softer touches, as that's what my fingers are used to from my upright, which can't be played pp.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                21 Nov 2023, 03:09

                                PIano's great! The Petrof Mistral "warm" setting is excellent. I set the velocity curve to produce louder noises with softer touches, as that's what my fingers are used to from my upright, which can't be played pp.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 21 Nov 2023, 03:22 last edited by
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                                @Horace said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

                                I set the velocity curve to produce louder noises with softer touches

                                I haven't gotten that deep into the weeds with Pianoteq. I just pick a preset and I'm happy with it. Z

                                IIRC, Roland doesn't sample sounds. Using Pianoteq shows you how good it can be to not rely on sampling.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • G George K
                                  21 Nov 2023, 03:22

                                  @Horace said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

                                  I set the velocity curve to produce louder noises with softer touches

                                  I haven't gotten that deep into the weeds with Pianoteq. I just pick a preset and I'm happy with it. Z

                                  IIRC, Roland doesn't sample sounds. Using Pianoteq shows you how good it can be to not rely on sampling.

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 21 Nov 2023, 03:33 last edited by
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                                  @George-K said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

                                  @Horace said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

                                  I set the velocity curve to produce louder noises with softer touches

                                  I haven't gotten that deep into the weeds with Pianoteq. I just pick a preset and I'm happy with it. Z

                                  IIRC, Roland doesn't sample sounds. Using Pianoteq shows you how good it can be to not rely on sampling.

                                  I think this sound engine on my piano, called SuperNatural, has some math modeling like Pianoteq. But it sounds awful by comparison.

                                  One thing I note with the pianoteq pianos, is the sound differences between them are much more subtle than the differences I hear between real pianos. Still can't beat $50 for a new piano, even if it sounds like the old one.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 21 Nov 2023, 03:37 last edited by
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                                    I don't know about your model, but on mine, if I forget to disable "local control," the sound coming through the headphones/speakers is a mix of Pianoteq and the built in sounds. So, if I choose a harpsichord tuned to A414 and don't turn off local control, it's a mix of both sounds.

                                    "Funky" is an understatement.

                                    The difference among PianoTeq pianos becomes more obscure if "local control" is not disabled.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • G George K
                                      21 Nov 2023, 03:37

                                      I don't know about your model, but on mine, if I forget to disable "local control," the sound coming through the headphones/speakers is a mix of Pianoteq and the built in sounds. So, if I choose a harpsichord tuned to A414 and don't turn off local control, it's a mix of both sounds.

                                      "Funky" is an understatement.

                                      The difference among PianoTeq pianos becomes more obscure if "local control" is not disabled.

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on 21 Nov 2023, 03:54 last edited by
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                                      @George-K said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

                                      I don't know about your model, but on mine, if I forget to disable "local control," the sound coming through the headphones/speakers is a mix of Pianoteq and the built in sounds. So, if I choose a harpsichord tuned to A414 and don't turn off local control, it's a mix of both sounds.

                                      "Funky" is an understatement.

                                      The difference among PianoTeq pianos becomes more obscure if "local control" is not disabled.

                                      My piano doesn’t play any part in producing the sounds beyond the midi output. That goes to the computer, where my headphones are plugged in. The piano’s volume stays at zero. Other models have a line in, where you can play the Pianoteq sounds through the piano speaker, but my model has no inputs.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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