Thinking of getting a digital piano
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wrote on 19 Nov 2023, 06:26 last edited by
What headphones do you Pianoteq peeps use? I am investing in Sennheiser 650s. I think I am bottlenecked in sound quality with my cheap headphones.
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What headphones do you Pianoteq peeps use? I am investing in Sennheiser 650s. I think I am bottlenecked in sound quality with my cheap headphones.
wrote on 19 Nov 2023, 12:50 last edited by@Horace said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:
What headphones do you Pianoteq peeps use?
You'll have to go to @kluurs for that one. I use some cheapo headphones - a no-name brand. For my needs they're OK. If I want great, room-filling, sound, I'll go to my grand.
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wrote on 19 Nov 2023, 13:44 last edited by
I use Sennheiser HD 800 which I run through a Topping D90SE DAC/headphone amplifier.
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wrote on 19 Nov 2023, 14:30 last edited by jon-nyc
I literally just ordered my third pair of Sony MDR7506 professional studio headphones yesterday. They seem to last about 8 or 9 years then the ear piece cushions start disintegrating from all the contact with my scratchy face. I briefly considered looking what else was out there but I’m so used to the weight and feel of these, I’ve been using them since 2005.
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wrote on 19 Nov 2023, 14:38 last edited by
The only thing I don't like about mine is that the earpiece is a bit too small. I might consider replacing them with something that's more "over the ear-ish".
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wrote on 19 Nov 2023, 14:54 last edited by
Mine are very much that. i think they were pretty high end when i got them in 2005. But they're still a good seller, you can see them stocked at bricks and mortar retailers to this day.
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Mine are very much that. i think they were pretty high end when i got them in 2005. But they're still a good seller, you can see them stocked at bricks and mortar retailers to this day.
wrote on 19 Nov 2023, 15:00 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:
Mine are very much that. i think they were pretty high end when i got them in 2005. But they're still a good seller, you can see them stocked at bricks and mortar retailers to this day.
Those are the ones I'm upgrading from. I'm hoping to be able to hear a difference, but we'll see. The Sennheiser 650 will be more comfortable in any case.
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wrote on 19 Nov 2023, 15:45 last edited by
Those Sennheisers are pricey!
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wrote on 19 Nov 2023, 15:48 last edited by
@George-K said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:
Those Sennheisers are pricey!
the software, headphones, and audio interface are costing as much as the piano.
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@George-K said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:
Those Sennheisers are pricey!
the software, headphones, and audio interface are costing as much as the piano.
wrote on 19 Nov 2023, 16:03 last edited by@Horace said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:
@George-K said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:
Those Sennheisers are pricey!
the software, headphones, and audio interface are costing as much as the piano.
Yeah. How about that?
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@Horace said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:
@George-K said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:
Those Sennheisers are pricey!
the software, headphones, and audio interface are costing as much as the piano.
Yeah. How about that?
wrote on 19 Nov 2023, 16:17 last edited by@George-K said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:
@Horace said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:
@George-K said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:
Those Sennheisers are pricey!
the software, headphones, and audio interface are costing as much as the piano.
Yeah. How about that?
Rhetorical cost saving measures are worth what any other rhetoric is worth.
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wrote on 19 Nov 2023, 16:18 last edited by
I bought the Petrof pianos yesterday. Now my office is rather cluttered with 5 concert grand pianos.
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wrote on 19 Nov 2023, 16:20 last edited by
Those aren't necessarily my best headphones. I have a pair of Stax electostatic ear-speakers and with a Stax Class A amplifier that sound nice as well. Sadly, I spend the majority of my time listening to music through my iPhone and my bone conduction headphones. I have a pair of inexpensive Sennheisers I use with the bedroom stereo.
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wrote on 19 Nov 2023, 16:31 last edited by
I don't use headphones.
If I have to listen to my crappy playing, so does everyone else. -
wrote on 19 Nov 2023, 17:00 last edited by
I use headphones to cancel the noise when I mow the lawn or use the leaf blower.
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wrote on 21 Nov 2023, 02:54 last edited by
I ordered two headphones from Amazon by accident. Actually, I ordered one, then reconsidered, canceled, and ordered another. But the cancelation didn't go through in time, and both were delivered. The first was Sennheiser 560-S, the second was Sennheiser 650. I thought the 650 would be better, but it turns out I like the less expensive 560-S more, and the difference was clear. Hate to take advantage of all these free returns. But I'll get over it.
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wrote on 21 Nov 2023, 03:03 last edited by George K
Amazon returns are Da Bomb.
As long as it's legit - "I didn't like them" - there's usually no problem.
How's the piano? Still happy?
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wrote on 21 Nov 2023, 03:09 last edited by
PIano's great! The Petrof Mistral "warm" setting is excellent. I set the velocity curve to produce louder noises with softer touches, as that's what my fingers are used to from my upright, which can't be played pp.
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PIano's great! The Petrof Mistral "warm" setting is excellent. I set the velocity curve to produce louder noises with softer touches, as that's what my fingers are used to from my upright, which can't be played pp.
wrote on 21 Nov 2023, 03:22 last edited by@Horace said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:
I set the velocity curve to produce louder noises with softer touches
I haven't gotten that deep into the weeds with Pianoteq. I just pick a preset and I'm happy with it. Z
IIRC, Roland doesn't sample sounds. Using Pianoteq shows you how good it can be to not rely on sampling.
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@Horace said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:
I set the velocity curve to produce louder noises with softer touches
I haven't gotten that deep into the weeds with Pianoteq. I just pick a preset and I'm happy with it. Z
IIRC, Roland doesn't sample sounds. Using Pianoteq shows you how good it can be to not rely on sampling.
wrote on 21 Nov 2023, 03:33 last edited by@George-K said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:
@Horace said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:
I set the velocity curve to produce louder noises with softer touches
I haven't gotten that deep into the weeds with Pianoteq. I just pick a preset and I'm happy with it. Z
IIRC, Roland doesn't sample sounds. Using Pianoteq shows you how good it can be to not rely on sampling.
I think this sound engine on my piano, called SuperNatural, has some math modeling like Pianoteq. But it sounds awful by comparison.
One thing I note with the pianoteq pianos, is the sound differences between them are much more subtle than the differences I hear between real pianos. Still can't beat $50 for a new piano, even if it sounds like the old one.
