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May you live in interesting times.

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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    Doctor Phibes
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    #8

    I'd be happy with an affordable video card.

    (I'm not trying to make light of the awful situation in Israel here - just trying to make somebody smile with my usual stupid shit)

    I was only joking

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      It probably depends on perspective. Somebody living in Mao's China, or Vietnam during the war, or Iraq in the last 20 years, or France during the revolution, or Russia in 1917, etc. would probably say they'd been living in extremely interesting times. You'd be hard pushed to find any date in history where really big things weren't happening to some group or other.

      We have a tendency to say 'The World' when we actually mean 'Our world'.

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      @Doctor-Phibes said in May you live in interesting times.:

      It probably depends on perspective. Somebody living in Mao's China, or Vietnam during the war, or Iraq in the last 20 years, or France during the revolution, or Russia in 1917, etc. would probably say they'd been living in extremely interesting times. You'd be hard pushed to find any date in history where really big things weren't happening to some group or other.

      We have a tendency to say 'The World' when we actually mean 'Our world'.

      I don't buy that. Vietnam is more entangled and involved in the global economy than at any other time in its history thanks to the internet. As is France, Russia, China and everywhere else. But that was an innovation that began in the UK and US.

      AI's going to be exactly the same.

      Change has always been a constant, but those who think it's not accelerating for nearly everyone isn't paying attention. (Don't blame 'em, though.)

      Please love yourself.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        @Doctor-Phibes said in May you live in interesting times.:

        It probably depends on perspective. Somebody living in Mao's China, or Vietnam during the war, or Iraq in the last 20 years, or France during the revolution, or Russia in 1917, etc. would probably say they'd been living in extremely interesting times. You'd be hard pushed to find any date in history where really big things weren't happening to some group or other.

        We have a tendency to say 'The World' when we actually mean 'Our world'.

        I don't buy that. Vietnam is more entangled and involved in the global economy than at any other time in its history thanks to the internet. As is France, Russia, China and everywhere else. But that was an innovation that began in the UK and US.

        AI's going to be exactly the same.

        Change has always been a constant, but those who think it's not accelerating for nearly everyone isn't paying attention. (Don't blame 'em, though.)

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        @Aqua-Letifer said in May you live in interesting times.:

        Change has always been a constant, but those who think it's not accelerating for nearly everyone isn't paying attention. (Don't blame 'em, though.)

        That's not the same as saying that there's a big change every 6 or 7 generations. If we're talking technology, the last big changes were the technological revolution of the 70's and 80's followed by the introduction of the internet in the 90's and 2000's, both of which were huge. AI might well be even bigger, but those two had massive consequences, and they weren't 6 or 7 generations ago, or apart.

        I was only joking

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          @Aqua-Letifer said in May you live in interesting times.:

          Change has always been a constant, but those who think it's not accelerating for nearly everyone isn't paying attention. (Don't blame 'em, though.)

          That's not the same as saying that there's a big change every 6 or 7 generations. If we're talking technology, the last big changes were the technological revolution of the 70's and 80's followed by the introduction of the internet in the 90's and 2000's, both of which were huge. AI might well be even bigger, but those two had massive consequences, and they weren't 6 or 7 generations ago, or apart.

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          Aqua Letifer
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          @Doctor-Phibes said in May you live in interesting times.:

          @Aqua-Letifer said in May you live in interesting times.:

          Change has always been a constant, but those who think it's not accelerating for nearly everyone isn't paying attention. (Don't blame 'em, though.)

          That's not the same as saying that there's a big change every 6 or 7 generations. If we're talking technology, the last big changes were the technological revolution of the 70's and 80's followed by the introduction of the internet in the 90's and 2000's, both of which were huge. AI might well be even bigger, but those two had massive consequences, and they weren't 6 or 7 generations ago, or apart.

          Well, c'mon, you gotta grade Sleepy Joe on a curve.

          Please love yourself.

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @Doctor-Phibes said in May you live in interesting times.:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in May you live in interesting times.:

            Change has always been a constant, but those who think it's not accelerating for nearly everyone isn't paying attention. (Don't blame 'em, though.)

            That's not the same as saying that there's a big change every 6 or 7 generations. If we're talking technology, the last big changes were the technological revolution of the 70's and 80's followed by the introduction of the internet in the 90's and 2000's, both of which were huge. AI might well be even bigger, but those two had massive consequences, and they weren't 6 or 7 generations ago, or apart.

            Well, c'mon, you gotta grade Sleepy Joe on a curve.

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            @Aqua-Letifer said in May you live in interesting times.:

            Well, c'mon, you gotta grade Sleepy Joe on a curve.

            He's actually been around for 6 or 7 generations, so maybe I should cut him some slack. There's also a fair chance he's still using dial-up.

            I was only joking

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              @Aqua-Letifer said in May you live in interesting times.:

              Well, c'mon, you gotta grade Sleepy Joe on a curve.

              He's actually been around for 6 or 7 generations, so maybe I should cut him some slack. There's also a fair chance he's still using dial-up.

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              Aqua Letifer
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              @Doctor-Phibes said in May you live in interesting times.:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in May you live in interesting times.:

              Well, c'mon, you gotta grade Sleepy Joe on a curve.

              He's actually been around for 6 or 7 generations, so maybe I should cut him some slack. There's also a fair chance he's still using dial-up.

              I think the investigations of the past year have proven pretty soundly that his son does the online communication for him.

              Please love yourself.

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                jon-nyc
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                "There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen"--Vladimir Ilyich Lenin.

                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  #15

                  A lot of magic happened at around the time of the US Civil War and just after.
                  Communications, transportation and war fighting weapon manufacture took giant leaps, Abraham Lincoln.

                  Then, 6 or 7 generations later, the 60s happened. More communications and transportation leaps forward, space ships and satellites, the Beatles, general purpose computers, Jack Kennedy.

                  Lincoln, Kennedy, Biden? Nope.

                  We still have a few generations before the next leap.

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    Ah, but the pace of change has accelerated.

                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                      #17

                      Ignoring technology, and just looking at some big events:

                      WW1 was one generation away from WW2.

                      The American civil war was roughly 2 generations from WW1.

                      The Napoleonic wars were roughly 2 generations before that.

                      The American Insurrection was roughly 1 generation before that.

                      I've ignored the Cultural Revolution, Spanish Inquisition, Russian Revolution and my own particular favourite - the invention of bebop, but you could put those in as necessary.

                      I remain unconvinced by Smokin' Joe's timeline.

                      I do know one thing that hasn't changed. People telling me since I left school that I'll soon have more leisure time. I'm fully expecting that rug to be pulled from under me once again in a few years as I hit retirement age.

                      I was only joking

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