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Can you dance to this?

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by George K
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    I'm working on the Bach Partita #1 BWV 825. Prelude is 95% there, now working on getting it "musical."

    The allemande is very "Bach-ish." Lots of sequences, broken arpeggios, etc.

    Allemande:

    processional couple dance with stately, flowing steps, fashionable in 16th-century aristocratic circles; also an 18th-century figure dance.

    STATELY...

    When I (sort of) learned the Handel Keyboard Suite in E major, one of my favorite movements was the second, the Allemande.

    Here's Alicia DeLarrocha playing it (go to 1:40).

    Link to video

    This is the tempo I used when some of you heard me butcher it a few years ago.

    So, on to Bach.

    Schiff's tempo (at 1:40)

    Link to video

    I'm aiming for something like that, but it'll probably end up being a bit slower.

    Sokolov is a bit brisker (I love his articulation) - 1:40:

    Link to video

    Gould starts to get crazy (1:50):

    Link to video

    Pires completes the craziness:

    Link to video

    At the other extreme...

    Link to video

    So help me here...seems to me that the only "danceable" one is the last.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • kluursK Offline
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      You might want to also give a listen to Sergio Fiorentino.

      Link to video

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        Thanks, @kluurs ! That's a reasonable tempo.

        Igor Levit is also approachable:

        Link to video

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • markM Offline
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          #4

          Love this piece. Look forward to hearing you play it live someday soon.

          I have started to revisit the English Suites #6 Gavotte I & II

          20231027-113710.jpg

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            • markM mark

              Love this piece. Look forward to hearing you play it live someday soon.

              I have started to revisit the English Suites #6 Gavotte I & II

              20231027-113710.jpg

              George KG Offline
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              George K
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              @mark listen to the way Perahia plays the Allemande from that English Suite. It's ... stately.

              Link to video

              So I really don't get the frenzied interpretations I linked earlier.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Kind of unrelated - last night I came across a masterclass taught by Jonathan Biss. It was on the Schubert Impromptu in C-minor.

                He said, "When Schubert writes in a minor key, it's sad. When Schuber writes in a major key, it's tragic."

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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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