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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #7

    Yeah, the major benefit of a train or boat is you're not packing and unpacking every night.

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      jon-nyc
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      #8

      Time for a winnebago, George.

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      • AxtremusA Away
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        Axtremus
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        #9

        I thought she moved out in 2017

        Maybe she did and moved back in when Trump was impeached impeached the second time left the White House.

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          I thought she moved out in 2017

          Maybe she did and moved back in when Trump was impeached impeached the second time left the White House.

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          George K
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          #10

          @Axtremus said in I thought she moved out in 2017:

          Maybe she did and moved back in

          Nope:

          This is nothing new for Cher who infamously announced in 2016 that if then-nominee Trump won the presidency, “I’m gonna have to leave the planet.”

          She did nothing of the sort, however, choosing to remain in California where she consistently spewed her hatred of Trump. In a new interview, she reveals that she “almost got an ulcer” when the real-estate mogul did, indeed, get elected in 2016.

          “I almost got an ulcer the last time,” she told The Guardian in an interview published Wednesday. “If he gets in, who knows? This time I will leave [the country].”

          Almost got an ulcer....

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            jon-nyc
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            #11

            She reneged on her promise to leave the planet? Shame on her.

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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            • George KG George K

              @Mik said in I thought she moved out in 2017:

              Have you looked into Canadian Rockies train trips? My BIL/SIL loved them.

              I have, and they're very expensive.

              Via Rail, which traverses the country is slow and scenic. However, to do this you have to get to (for me) Toronto - and since Mrs. George won't fly, that's a problem. Yeah, you can Amtrak it via New York, but still.

              A "Cabin for Two" is $3041 (US$), and it's a four day trip. It's roughly the same as an Amtrak bedroom.

              Screenshot 2023-10-21 at 8.03.06 AM.png

              But, remember this is not a "tour," simply transportation.

              Amtrak, Chicago to Portland on the same day, same accommodations is $2551, and it's a day quicker.

              The Rocky Mountaineer is a totally different thing - it's a tour. You can do destination tours (Vancouver to Jasper) or circle tours

              Screenshot 2023-10-21 at 8.13.54 AM.png

              A 14 day Vancouver to Vancouver round trip at the highest level of service is $9650 - per person. You can save $1000 by going to "standard."

              Also, this is not a sleeper train, if I"m not mistaken. You ride in coach (very nice coach, to be sure) with dining access. At night you're put up in a hotel. About $1400/day for this tour. Frankly, the idea of getting off the train every day and hotel-ing it sounds like a PITA.

              RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by Renauda
              #12

              @George-K

              I wouldn’t recommend it. I think you would be disappointed. Not much to see through northern Ontario other than thick forest and bush. As for the prairies, well they’re flat prairie. The Rockies are best driven by car or motor home with plenty of unscheduled stops as you see fit.

              Take a train to Montana then rent a car and drive up through Glacier Park in Montana. Enter Canada through Chief Mountain Crossing. From there you have all kinds of options to explore the Canadian Rockies and BC Interior.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Time for a winnebago, George.

                JollyJ Offline
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                @jon-nyc said in I thought she moved out in 2017:

                Time for a winnebago, George.

                Like boats and some other things, rent, don't buy.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @jon-nyc said in I thought she moved out in 2017:

                  Time for a winnebago, George.

                  Like boats and some other things, rent, don't buy.

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                  @Jolly said in I thought she moved out in 2017:

                  Like boats and some other things, rent, don't buy.

                  Part of the "Three F" rule.

                  Yeah, we toyed with the idea of purchasing one about 20 years ago. When you consider purchase price (>$60K), maintenance, storage ...

                  At a $2K per week rental, it's a lot cheaper that way.

                  Holiday Rambler is an upper end coach. Their smallest/cheapest.

                  Screenshot 2023-10-21 at 12.18.43 PM.png

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • RenaudaR Offline
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                    Renauda
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                    #15

                    Not a fan of motor homes or camper vans.

                    I always thought a 3/4 ton and fifth wheel trailer a better deal if extra space was important. Otherwise, my truck and box camper sufficed very well for our needs for a dozen or more years.

                    The past eight or so we have come full circle and now vacation with a tent and tarps to keep the weather out. Would not go back to a truck camper. No desire to pull any sort of trailer either.

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Class A motorhomes are nice. My dad's boss had a Newell...Now, that's the way to go, if you've got the nickles. And dime. And quarters. And several stacks of dollars, preferably in large notes.

                      https://www.newellcoach.com/

                      Mom and dad started out with a Class C Coachman, went to a Class A Winnebago and finished with a Class A Pace Arrow. TBH, the Class C had plenty of room for two and was easier to drive and easier to repair.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        Class A motorhomes are nice. My dad's boss had a Newell...Now, that's the way to go, if you've got the nickles. And dime. And quarters. And several stacks of dollars, preferably in large notes.

                        https://www.newellcoach.com/

                        Mom and dad started out with a Class C Coachman, went to a Class A Winnebago and finished with a Class A Pace Arrow. TBH, the Class C had plenty of room for two and was easier to drive and easier to repair.

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                        #17

                        @Jolly said in I thought she moved out in 2017:

                        Class C had plenty of room for two and was easier to drive and easier to repair.

                        Indeed. When we traveled with 3 kids, a Class C would have been awkward. But for the two of us, it would've been fine. Also, they come pretty big these days.

                        Just checked, a 28 foot Class C rents for about $100 a night in late October. That jumps to about $140 in early April for a 9 day rental.

                        On a 9 day rental, you'll probably spend another $450 in camping/hook-up fees. A thousand mile trip will be about $850 in gas. $0.38 per mile fee.

                        Totals out about $3K.

                        Plus your food.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #18

                          I don't do this stuff and don't hang around a bunch with people who do, but I'd certainly do a little looky-looing at different floor plans before I rented one. A 22-footer with a slide-out might work for you as well as a 28-footer.

                          For me, deal breakers are bathrooms and beds. Some bathrooms ain't big enough to cuss a cat in and some beds ain't much better than sleeping under the motorhome.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            Renauda
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                            #19

                            I am more than content with tenting. It’s amazing how much camping comfort you can load into the box and onto the roof of a Nissan Frontier Pro4X.

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                              #20

                              George you could even bring your animals and make a few weeks out of it.

                              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                              • RenaudaR Renauda

                                I am more than content with tenting. It’s amazing how much camping comfort you can load into the box and onto the roof of a Nissan Frontier Pro4X.

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                                  We had the largest Coleman tent trailer for the 4 of us, pulled by my decked-out conversion van. We could set up in under half an hour, and then could go sightseeing anywhere we wanted with the van. I still have the van. Great memories of the camping years.

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                                    Ever thought of doing a Riverboat Cruise?

                                    https://www.vikingrivercruises.com/cruise-destinations/north-america/waterways/mississippi/index.html?cid=SEM|GGL|999|m_9959129027__652825928522&utm_id=sem:VRC-US-GGL-NB-Core-United_States-Exact&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7YTu8IOKggMV1lBHAR0C-gbQEAAYASAAEgJ6M_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

                                    https://www.aqvoyages.com/lake-ocean-cruises/great-lakes/

                                    The Brad

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      Ever thought of doing a Riverboat Cruise?

                                      https://www.vikingrivercruises.com/cruise-destinations/north-america/waterways/mississippi/index.html?cid=SEM|GGL|999|m_9959129027__652825928522&utm_id=sem:VRC-US-GGL-NB-Core-United_States-Exact&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7YTu8IOKggMV1lBHAR0C-gbQEAAYASAAEgJ6M_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

                                      https://www.aqvoyages.com/lake-ocean-cruises/great-lakes/

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                                      George K
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                                      @LuFins-Dad yup - we've considered it.

                                      A nice one would be to take The Empire Builder to St. Paul for an overnight. Then cruise down the Mississippi to New Orleans, and catch CONO back home.

                                      But...that gets REAL pricey real fast.

                                      Screenshot 2023-10-22 at 11.14.13 AM.png

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                                      American Cruise Lines is a bit cheaper:

                                      Screenshot 2023-10-22 at 11.17.18 AM.png

                                      With Mrs. George's arthritis being so problematic (she's looking at getting her other hip done, and her spine is no-fucking-good), walking tours, etc are out of the question for her. I think she'd be pissed if I left her on the boat so I could wander around.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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