Watch out for Windows 11, version 22H2

[Copper]

The Mac is sitting right here next to the PCs. It is an old Mac Mini, at this age it is a pig too.

[George K]

@Copper said in Watch out for Windows 11, version 22H2:

It is an old Mac Mini, at this age it is a pig too.

Just curious - what model, how old?

Why a pig?

I have Mrs. George's 2011 MacBook Air connected to my Roland keyboard. Yeah, it's no longer supported, and all it does is run PianoTeq.

But it runs it fine, and browses the web and sends email...

Works fine.

[Mik]

That’s funny. My 2nd gen iPad has become dog slow turning on.

[Copper]

@George-K said in Watch out for Windows 11, version 22H2:

what model, how old?

Bought on 9/21/16 Mac Mini /2.6 Ghz/8GB/1TB $740 including tax

Upgraded from Early 2009

It doesn't get much use these days. If I start up the dev environment to play with some code it is very slow - it takes minutes. Once it gets going it is usable.

[Doctor Phibes]

I don't think I've had a Windows patch that took more than 5 minutes to install. Hell, Windows 11 only took about an hour. Apparently, I installed this one back in July

[Copper]

I installed the SSD on the Windows PC this morning.

Of course it took a bunch of playing around with stupid partitions.

It may be worth it, it is about a million times faster that the HDD. I didn't time any tests so that is just a rough estimate.

[mark]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Watch out for Windows 11, version 22H2:

I don't think I've had a Windows patch that took more than 5 minutes to install. Hell, Windows 11 only took about an hour. Apparently, I installed this one back in July

Same experience I have with Windows 11. Very stable too.

22H2 installed on 5/10/23
23H2 installed on 11/22/23

[Copper]

The speed difference is very nice.

Little stuff like reading tncr is about the same, no big deal.

Copying lots of big files takes probably less than 10% of the time on the old HDD.

MS Flight Sim install went from 9+ hours to 3+ hours.

Boot time now is maybe a minute or so, it used to be 10-15 minutes.

[George K]

@Copper said in Watch out for Windows 11, version 22H2:

Boot time now is maybe a minute or so, it used to be 10-15 minutes.

I just checked. My 2023 Mac Mini (M2 chip) booted from its internal SSD.

From startup chime to functioning desktop and all external devices mounted.

23.05 seconds.

[Rainman]

Copper, that's amazingly slow boot time.
Maybe your PC should see a Dr.

[George K]

Opening Word, Excel, Safari, AdBlock, Banktivity, Mail, Photos, Spamsieve, Notes, and DuckDuckGo added 16 seconds.

[Doctor Phibes]

Yeah, it's definitely worth shelling out from time to time - my 2-3 year old PC boots in about 15 seconds. NVMe FTW.

[Copper]

You know how you format the drive and install Windows

Then you install about a million Apps that go back for years and years

And after about a day and a half you install something that won't let the machine run for more than a few minutes before hitting the "BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH".

And over the next 2 days you reboot about several hundred times.

Then you finally reformat and start over again.

That is what I have been doing.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Copper said in Watch out for Windows 11, version 22H2:

You know how you format the drive and install Windows

I stopped doing that after Windows 7, for the reasons given in the rest of your post.

[Axtremus]

Hey a Mac.

[Copper]

After several days and hundreds of re-boots the problem is finally fixed.

I wiped out both the HDD and SSD and made the system completely unusable.

My best guess is that I had some kind of hardware error that made the problem show up a failure of, mouse, keyboard, video card, memory, system software, cooling system, and both drives.

Solution: unplug everything and put the machine in the closet.

Go to Costco and get a decent gaming PC, the kind with the see-through case that appeals to middle school gamer types. Lucky that I keep lots of backups.

Problem solved.

[Rainman]

Copper, you could easily become a computer repairman with guaranteed results!
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