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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    The ‘new right’ isn’t really an intellectual movement, it’s more of a populist movement.

    It seems to me that most intellectual activity on the right these days is coming out of the ‘common good constitutionalism’ crowd.

    Scruton was the last big name intellectual of the Burkean tradition, IMO.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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    • George KG George K

      @Renauda said in Why Russia Embraces Tucker Carlson:

      Not sure about none

      Who are some of today’s “thinkers?” Peterson’s become kind of a nasty parody of himself.

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      @George-K said in Why Russia Embraces Tucker Carlson:

      @Renauda said in Why Russia Embraces Tucker Carlson:

      Not sure about none

      Who are some of today’s “thinkers?” Peterson’s become kind of a nasty parody of himself.

      Informative is the fact that most of the ones who've escaped full cancelation are black. Glenn Loury is an admitted conservative. McWhorter leans that way on some cultural issue but won't self identify as a conservative.

      One of the problems is the label has been absconded with by Trump, but nobody with any pretense towards public thinking, is a full Trump supporter that I'm aware of. I don't know where VDH stands these days. He'll vote for the R even if it's Trump, but I don't know if he'd support Trump in the primary.

      Education is extremely important.

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        DeSantis advisor Chris Rufo is described by many as an important current political thinker.

        Education is extremely important.

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          Horace
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          Dennis Prager is a consistent provider of good political thought IMO.

          Economics has to trend left in the future probably even more sharply than it's trended over the past few years. Economic conservatives have a tough row to hoe. They will self marginalize, or get with the times. I suspect AI is going to be a gut punch to capitalism, though the ideals of it can still hopefully be reimagined in a way that continues to organize civilizations, and give people meaning.

          Education is extremely important.

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            I guess I see intellectuals as a more or less distinct class from activists and mere pundits like the names you mention. But maybe Loury and McWhorter should be so considered.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              I guess I see intellectuals as a more or less distinct class from activists and mere pundits like the names you mention. But maybe Loury and McWhorter should be so considered.

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              @jon-nyc said in Why Russia Embraces Tucker Carlson:

              I guess I see intellectuals as a more or less distinct class from activists and mere pundits like the names you mention. But maybe Loury and McWhorter should be so considered.

              I wouldn't be too precious with the word. People like Ezra Klein and Jonah Goldberg and VDH are public intellectuals.

              Education is extremely important.

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                VDH certainly. The other two are more well read pundits than intellectuals.

                Elbows up!

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                  Well there's no licensing board. I've heard Goldberg and Klein refer to themselves as public intellectuals, and I've heard others refer to them that way. As PIs go, IMO they qualify. They write books, and engage in discussions in the public square, and people care what they think.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    Fine, your choice. Doesn’t change my mind that they are otherwise.

                    Elbows up!

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                      @jon-nyc said in Why Russia Embraces Tucker Carlson:

                      I guess I see intellectuals as a more or less distinct class from activists and mere pundits like the names you mention. But maybe Loury and McWhorter should be so considered.

                      I wouldn't be too precious with the word. People like Ezra Klein and Jonah Goldberg and VDH are public intellectuals.

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                      @Horace said in Why Russia Embraces Tucker Carlson:

                      @jon-nyc said in Why Russia Embraces Tucker Carlson:

                      I guess I see intellectuals as a more or less distinct class from activists and mere pundits like the names you mention. But maybe Loury and McWhorter should be so considered.

                      I wouldn't be too precious with the word. People like Ezra Klein and Jonah Goldberg and VDH are public intellectuals.

                      Yeah but the “public” in front of it makes them a bit more pundit-y.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @Horace said in Why Russia Embraces Tucker Carlson:

                        @jon-nyc said in Why Russia Embraces Tucker Carlson:

                        I guess I see intellectuals as a more or less distinct class from activists and mere pundits like the names you mention. But maybe Loury and McWhorter should be so considered.

                        I wouldn't be too precious with the word. People like Ezra Klein and Jonah Goldberg and VDH are public intellectuals.

                        Yeah but the “public” in front of it makes them a bit more pundit-y.

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                        @jon-nyc said in Why Russia Embraces Tucker Carlson:

                        @Horace said in Why Russia Embraces Tucker Carlson:

                        @jon-nyc said in Why Russia Embraces Tucker Carlson:

                        I guess I see intellectuals as a more or less distinct class from activists and mere pundits like the names you mention. But maybe Loury and McWhorter should be so considered.

                        I wouldn't be too precious with the word. People like Ezra Klein and Jonah Goldberg and VDH are public intellectuals.

                        Yeah but the “public” in front of it makes them a bit more pundit-y.

                        In practice, I take it to mean that they think and communicate serious, well-informed thoughts about cultural issues. As opposed to people who think and communicate serious, well-informed thoughts about things with no cultural valence. The word "public" distinguishes those two sorts.

                        Education is extremely important.

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