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  • L LuFins Dad
    12 Oct 2023, 00:25

    @jon-nyc said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

    Don’t ever let anyone tell you cancel culture is only a trait of the woke.

    Yeah, get your point, but the scope is rather important. On one side, you have screaming Mimis doxxing people and calling their workplaces to threaten their employers because they suggest they don’t want their daughters sharing locker rooms with women with erect penises… On the other side you have lawyers and financial service guys saying that they won’t hire people that are applauding, cheering, and supporting the rape and murders of young girls, the beheading of infants, and the absolutely batshit crazy stuff that went down last weekend.

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    Jolly
    wrote on 12 Oct 2023, 03:14 last edited by
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    @LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

    @jon-nyc said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

    Don’t ever let anyone tell you cancel culture is only a trait of the woke.

    Yeah, get your point, but the scope is rather important. On one side, you have screaming Mimis doxxing people and calling their workplaces to threaten their employers because they suggest they don’t want their daughters sharing locker rooms with women with erect penises… On the other side you have lawyers and financial service guys saying that they won’t hire people that are applauding, cheering, and supporting the rape and murders of young girls, the beheading of infants, and the absolutely batshit crazy stuff that went down last weekend.

    And another thing...Dershowitz did not call for these students to be banned from employment anywhere. He did not call for their expulsion from Harvard.

    And he made it a point to state unequivocally the students have a right to free speech.

    But...He wanted the students to defend their position in the public square.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • J Jolly
      12 Oct 2023, 03:14

      @LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

      @jon-nyc said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

      Don’t ever let anyone tell you cancel culture is only a trait of the woke.

      Yeah, get your point, but the scope is rather important. On one side, you have screaming Mimis doxxing people and calling their workplaces to threaten their employers because they suggest they don’t want their daughters sharing locker rooms with women with erect penises… On the other side you have lawyers and financial service guys saying that they won’t hire people that are applauding, cheering, and supporting the rape and murders of young girls, the beheading of infants, and the absolutely batshit crazy stuff that went down last weekend.

      And another thing...Dershowitz did not call for these students to be banned from employment anywhere. He did not call for their expulsion from Harvard.

      And he made it a point to state unequivocally the students have a right to free speech.

      But...He wanted the students to defend their position in the public square.

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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on 12 Oct 2023, 04:12 last edited by
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      @Jolly said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

      @LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

      @jon-nyc said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

      Don’t ever let anyone tell you cancel culture is only a trait of the woke.

      Yeah, get your point, but the scope is rather important. On one side, you have screaming Mimis doxxing people and calling their workplaces to threaten their employers because they suggest they don’t want their daughters sharing locker rooms with women with erect penises… On the other side you have lawyers and financial service guys saying that they won’t hire people that are applauding, cheering, and supporting the rape and murders of young girls, the beheading of infants, and the absolutely batshit crazy stuff that went down last weekend.

      And another thing...Dershowitz did not call for these students to be banned from employment anywhere. He did not call for their expulsion from Harvard.

      And he made it a point to state unequivocally the students have a right to free speech.

      But...He wanted the students to defend their position in the public square.

      Things could change but anti-semitism isn't even in the same ballpark as choosing a poor-taste Halloween costume that one time in the 80s. And I currently don't see evidence of Dersh ginning up a mob of petition-writers to try to get the kids expelled. Nor do I see him publicizing their home addresses. Nor do I see him describing their faces as "punchable." Nor do I see women making shit up about sexual assault allegations regarding these students because they're publicly on the wrong side of a conservative mob. Nor do I see the Daily Wire reporting on those made-up stories as if they were factual.

      Please love yourself.

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 12 Oct 2023, 11:13 last edited by
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        @Jolly @Aqua-Letifer I think @jon-nyc was referring to the investment banker that said he wouldn’t hire and the lawyer that rescinded a job offer.

        The Brad

        A 1 Reply Last reply 12 Oct 2023, 14:28
        • L LuFins Dad
          12 Oct 2023, 11:13

          @Jolly @Aqua-Letifer I think @jon-nyc was referring to the investment banker that said he wouldn’t hire and the lawyer that rescinded a job offer.

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 12 Oct 2023, 14:28 last edited by
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          @LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

          @Jolly @Aqua-Letifer I think @jon-nyc was referring to the investment banker that said he wouldn’t hire and the lawyer that rescinded a job offer.

          So apparently that's the same as woke cancel culture?

          Please love yourself.

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          • A Aqua Letifer
            12 Oct 2023, 14:28

            @LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

            @Jolly @Aqua-Letifer I think @jon-nyc was referring to the investment banker that said he wouldn’t hire and the lawyer that rescinded a job offer.

            So apparently that's the same as woke cancel culture?

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            Horace
            wrote on 12 Oct 2023, 14:31 last edited by
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            @Aqua-Letifer said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

            @LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

            @Jolly @Aqua-Letifer I think @jon-nyc was referring to the investment banker that said he wouldn’t hire and the lawyer that rescinded a job offer.

            So apparently that's the same as woke cancel culture?

            It's a non-zero amount of cancel culture, thus allowing for both sides are equalizing in perpetuity.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • A Aqua Letifer
              12 Oct 2023, 14:28

              @LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

              @Jolly @Aqua-Letifer I think @jon-nyc was referring to the investment banker that said he wouldn’t hire and the lawyer that rescinded a job offer.

              So apparently that's the same as woke cancel culture?

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 12 Oct 2023, 14:45 last edited by
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              @Aqua-Letifer said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

              @LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

              @Jolly @Aqua-Letifer I think @jon-nyc was referring to the investment banker that said he wouldn’t hire and the lawyer that rescinded a job offer.

              So apparently that's the same as woke cancel culture?

              Not at all, as I pointed out yesterday that there is a world of difference between trying to get parents fired from their jobs for disagreeing over gender identity identity politics and refusing to hire somebody because they celebrated these barbaric acts.

              I just want to make sure everybody is bitching about the same thing…

              The Brad

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                Jolly
                wrote on 12 Oct 2023, 15:11 last edited by
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                Oh, I think everyone who's not playing Philadelphia lawyer recognizes the difference.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • A Aqua Letifer
                  12 Oct 2023, 04:12

                  @Jolly said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                  @jon-nyc said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                  Don’t ever let anyone tell you cancel culture is only a trait of the woke.

                  Yeah, get your point, but the scope is rather important. On one side, you have screaming Mimis doxxing people and calling their workplaces to threaten their employers because they suggest they don’t want their daughters sharing locker rooms with women with erect penises… On the other side you have lawyers and financial service guys saying that they won’t hire people that are applauding, cheering, and supporting the rape and murders of young girls, the beheading of infants, and the absolutely batshit crazy stuff that went down last weekend.

                  And another thing...Dershowitz did not call for these students to be banned from employment anywhere. He did not call for their expulsion from Harvard.

                  And he made it a point to state unequivocally the students have a right to free speech.

                  But...He wanted the students to defend their position in the public square.

                  Things could change but anti-semitism isn't even in the same ballpark as choosing a poor-taste Halloween costume that one time in the 80s. And I currently don't see evidence of Dersh ginning up a mob of petition-writers to try to get the kids expelled. Nor do I see him publicizing their home addresses. Nor do I see him describing their faces as "punchable." Nor do I see women making shit up about sexual assault allegations regarding these students because they're publicly on the wrong side of a conservative mob. Nor do I see the Daily Wire reporting on those made-up stories as if they were factual.

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 12 Oct 2023, 15:19 last edited by
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                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                  @Jolly said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                  @jon-nyc said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                  Don’t ever let anyone tell you cancel culture is only a trait of the woke.

                  Yeah, get your point, but the scope is rather important. On one side, you have screaming Mimis doxxing people and calling their workplaces to threaten their employers because they suggest they don’t want their daughters sharing locker rooms with women with erect penises… On the other side you have lawyers and financial service guys saying that they won’t hire people that are applauding, cheering, and supporting the rape and murders of young girls, the beheading of infants, and the absolutely batshit crazy stuff that went down last weekend.

                  And another thing...Dershowitz did not call for these students to be banned from employment anywhere. He did not call for their expulsion from Harvard.

                  And he made it a point to state unequivocally the students have a right to free speech.

                  But...He wanted the students to defend their position in the public square.

                  Things could change but anti-semitism isn't even in the same ballpark as choosing a poor-taste Halloween costume that one time in the 80s. And I currently don't see evidence of Dersh ginning up a mob of petition-writers to try to get the kids expelled. Nor do I see him publicizing their home addresses. Nor do I see him describing their faces as "punchable." Nor do I see women making shit up about sexual assault allegations regarding these students because they're publicly on the wrong side of a conservative mob. Nor do I see the Daily Wire reporting on those made-up stories as if they were factual.

                  Your choice of the Halloween costume is a better reference than my school locker room reference.

                  The Brad

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                  • H Horace
                    12 Oct 2023, 14:31

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                    @Jolly @Aqua-Letifer I think @jon-nyc was referring to the investment banker that said he wouldn’t hire and the lawyer that rescinded a job offer.

                    So apparently that's the same as woke cancel culture?

                    It's a non-zero amount of cancel culture, thus allowing for both sides are equalizing in perpetuity.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 12 Oct 2023, 20:14 last edited by
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                    @Horace said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                    @Jolly @Aqua-Letifer I think @jon-nyc was referring to the investment banker that said he wouldn’t hire and the lawyer that rescinded a job offer.

                    So apparently that's the same as woke cancel culture?

                    It's a non-zero amount of cancel culture, thus allowing for both sides are equalizing in perpetuity.

                    “Both sides are equal” seems to be one of your favorite strawmen.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • J jon-nyc
                      12 Oct 2023, 20:14

                      @Horace said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                      @Jolly @Aqua-Letifer I think @jon-nyc was referring to the investment banker that said he wouldn’t hire and the lawyer that rescinded a job offer.

                      So apparently that's the same as woke cancel culture?

                      It's a non-zero amount of cancel culture, thus allowing for both sides are equalizing in perpetuity.

                      “Both sides are equal” seems to be one of your favorite strawmen.

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 12 Oct 2023, 20:57 last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                      @Horace said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

                      @Jolly @Aqua-Letifer I think @jon-nyc was referring to the investment banker that said he wouldn’t hire and the lawyer that rescinded a job offer.

                      So apparently that's the same as woke cancel culture?

                      It's a non-zero amount of cancel culture, thus allowing for both sides are equalizing in perpetuity.

                      “Both sides are equal” seems to be one of your favorite strawmen.

                      I was commenting on both sides are equal arguments in the abstract, which usually depend on anecdote, and at that, the mere presence of one or more such anecdotes, rather than quantity. I wasn't actually accusing you of both sides are equalizing in this case per se. I'm sorry if you took it that way, and I hope you have a better rest of your day, apology in hand.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote on 13 Oct 2023, 01:25 last edited by
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                        https://www.bizpacreview.com/2023/10/12/conservative-watchdog-drives-truck-through-harvard-displaying-names-of-hamas-defending-students-1403804/

                        Driven by someone from Accuracy in a Media, a conservative watchdog group, the truck displayed the names and photos of the Harvard students who’d signed the infamous pro-Hamas letter blaming Israel for Hamas’ weekend terror attack.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 13 Oct 2023, 11:32 last edited by
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                          Another reason to not go to Starbucks:

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 13 Oct 2023, 11:34 last edited by
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                            Besides the burnt coffee?

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 13 Oct 2023, 11:35 last edited by
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                              FFS

                              The Brad

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                                Copper
                                wrote on 13 Oct 2023, 15:48 last edited by
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                                idiots

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 13 Oct 2023, 18:39 last edited by
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                                  Can you get expelled or suspended for “misgendering” someone at Harvard?

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 13 Oct 2023, 19:51 last edited by
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                                    That would be an Affirmative there, Ghostrider.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on 13 Oct 2023, 22:08 last edited by
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                                      That woman gives me the creeps.

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 13 Oct 2023, 22:21 last edited by
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                                        That style of eyewear is known as "problem glasses". Pop culture can generate some excellent neologisms.

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                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • H Horace
                                          13 Oct 2023, 22:21

                                          That style of eyewear is known as "problem glasses". Pop culture can generate some excellent neologisms.

                                          image.png

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 13 Oct 2023, 22:29 last edited by
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                                          @Horace you always have your finger on the pulse of culture. I’d never heard of such a thing.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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