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[Horace]

I don’t really think it’s anti semitism. It’s hatred of winners mostly. Which manifests as oppression narratives, which in turn fit nicely into the Israel/palestine situation.

[George K]

Remember the Jewish students who parked a truck outside the demonstrators' site, and it displayed the video of what Hamas did to the Israelis on Oct 7?

Rep Ihan Omar (D-Hamas) berates the chancellor of UCLA for allowing the video to be played because it was disturbing.

Link to video

[George K]

[LuFins Dad]

Good lord. I’m done.

[George K]

Next thing you know, they'll be required to use different drinking fountains.

[Renauda]

[taiwan_girl]

@George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

Rep Ihan Omar (D-Hamas) berates the chancellor of UCLA for allowing the video to be played because it was disturbing.

and another eye roll for her other comment.

[Horace]

[Renauda]

[Renauda]

@Renauda said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

@Horace

Not good enough a reason to look elsewhere. Besides, that woman is only nominally American and not the least Jewish by faith or ethnicity.

[Horace]

@Renauda said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

@Horace

Not good enough a reason to look elsewhere. Besides, that woman is only nominally American and not the least bit Jewish.

She's not that young, either. She is aligned with the ideology of the pro-palestine protestors. Their demographics are what I'm talking about.

[Renauda]

Actually the pro Hamas protesters are aligned with a vanguardist ideology that masquerades as enlightenment. A Pied Piper or, if you like, a Charles Manson. That woman on the other hand, is wholly aligned with fanaticism and all it entails.

Big difference.

[Horace]

@Renauda said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

Actually the pro Hamas protesters are aligned with a vanguardist ideology that masquerades as enlightenment. A Pied Piper or, if you like, a Charles Manson. That woman on the other hand, is wholly aligned with fanaticism and all it entails.

Big difference.

You rebutted my comment about the "hatred of winners" being a root cause of the student protests, so that's what I was discussing.

Here's a young Jewish lady who captures the attitude I'm referring to. She was a Biden appointee who has recently resigned due to his support for Israel's "genocide" in Gaza. Shockingly, she went to Berkeley. She is clear that from her perspective, anti-semitism is enabled and enhanced by the "genocide". She also has the requisite negative things to say about the right side of the political spectrum in general, specifically Trump. It's all a bundle, and anti-semitism has little to do with it. Nothing, in her case.

I think it's an extremely low cognitive bar for someone not to hate people just because of some genetic phenotype, like skin color or ethnicity. The vast majority of people are programmed adequately to overcome that bar, at least. Certainly the vast majority of students at these institutions. Their hatreds lie in opposing ideologies and world views. I consider oppressor/oppressed and winner/loser to be essentially synonymous, in that I think economic winners, from individuals to societies, will inevitably be considered oppressors by these people.

Link to video

[Renauda]

@Horace

Lily Greenberg certainly fits the demographic profile you describe. Others would just write her off as a self loathing Jew. I have no opinion either way. To me she and her ilk are really not far removed from Manson cultists in that they have no clue what they actually believe. They just act as they are told to act.

As you pointed out my reference is that Omar woman. Islamist fanatic.

[jon-nyc]

[George K]

Jesus

[LuFins Dad]

@George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

Jesus

No, Muhammad.

[jon-nyc]

[George K]

This is from the RWEC commenting on that video:

Did you know that many jurisdictions have laws against wearing masks that disguise a person's identity, especially in circumstances where a person could legitimately feel intimidated?

You know, like at protests where people are shouting aggressively, committing illegal acts like vandalism, pushing people around, shouting violent slogans, and suchlike.

The laws vary by jurisdiction, and some have been validated by the courts and others have been struck, but they are common enough. New York, for instance, had an anti-mask law that was repealed during the pandemic, but a State Assemblyman has proposed reinstating it.

I, for one, think it is an excellent idea.

Most mask laws were passed to deal with precisely the problem we are faced with today: people who, under the guise of political protest, break laws and use their anonymity to commit acts of violence and intimidation against some disfavored individuals and groups.

The Klan was the target of many of these laws. Klansmen didn't wear those masks because they liked to look like children pretending to be ghosts. They did so because the anonymity the masks provided them gave them license to do things that would get them in deep trouble if their faces were exposed.

The same holds true today, and everybody knows it. It is shocking to me that so many otherwise "empathetic" people can tolerate or even support the protesters at all, given not just their behavior but the extraordinary lengths to which they go to remain anonymous as they commit crimes and shout epithets at innocent people just because they are Jewish.

Antiwar protesters have not, as a rule, been so ashamed of their opinions or behavior that they hide behind Keffiyahs and other masks. They have political opinions, make them clear, and stand behind their opinions. It is a much more effective measure of persuasion, for one thing.

But persuasion is not the point; intimidation is, at least for the most part. The persuasion part of the propaganda equation takes place before our eyes as mainstream media mouthpieces repeat Hamas propaganda endlessly; the intimidation phase takes place on the street as masked thugs imitating brownshirts destroy things and intimidate Jews and anybody who supports them.

[Doctor Phibes]