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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    @jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

    Serious question, I’d like all to weigh in.

    If publicly pushing the ‘river to sea’ message should render her unemployable as she’s a threat to Jewish patients, what about a physician who advocates the Jolly solution on their social media?

    Whoa, wait a minute. You are starting with a false premise. As far as I can tell, nobody was dismissed for promoting “From the River to the Sea”. They were dismissed for celebrating, promoting, and glorifying the murders, beheadings, rapes, and tortures of over 1200 innocent children, men, and women. They are rejoicing in the savage beheading of a grandmother, whose killers used the woman’s own phone to video the killing and then posted the video to the woman’s Facebook account and sharing it to her friends and family via messenger. They referred to this as a glorious day and a good start. That’s why they were dismissed. And quite frankly, anybody that celebrates and revels in that butchery is either insane or has no place living in a modern western liberal nation.

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    @LuFins-Dad

    The endodontist from Boston was fired for tearing down posters of kidnapping victims.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      @LuFins-Dad

      The endodontist from Boston was fired for tearing down posters of kidnapping victims.

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      Have we reached a point where the pendulum of "cancel culture" has swung too far to the opposite end?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Cancel culture swung too far in 2020 at the latest.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Cancel culture swung too far in 2020 at the latest.

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          @jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

          Cancel culture swung too far in 2020 at the latest.

          Of course it did. My question is whether the swing back is too extreme.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            jon-nyc
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            #233

            We’re not witnessing a swing back, we’re witnessing it becoming a bipartisan pastime.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              #234

              We’ve always had “cancel culture” in the sense that there were always things you could espouse that would get you kicked out of institutions.

              What changed in 2020 (starting earlier than that, to be sure) is that a small ideological minority got significant control of the “institutional overton window” (if I may coin a phrase) and started canceling people for espousing opinions that had significant, even majority support.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                We’re not witnessing a swing back, we’re witnessing it becoming a bipartisan pastime.

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                @jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                We’re not witnessing a swing back, we’re witnessing it becoming a bipartisan pastime.

                Cue “both sides are equal” strawman response in 5…4…3…

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @LuFins-Dad

                  The endodontist from Boston was fired for tearing down posters of kidnapping victims.

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                  @jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                  @LuFins-Dad

                  The endodontist from Boston was fired for tearing down posters of kidnapping victims.

                  That’s still a far cry from simply espousing “From the River to the Sea” which many people just take to mean the abolishment of Israel and the establishment of a Palestinian/Arab nation…

                  Minimizing Cancel Culture does not mean the removal of repercussions..

                  The Brad

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    @jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                    We’re not witnessing a swing back, we’re witnessing it becoming a bipartisan pastime.

                    Cue “both sides are equal” strawman response in 5…4…3…

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                    @jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                    @jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                    We’re not witnessing a swing back, we’re witnessing it becoming a bipartisan pastime.

                    Cue “both sides are equal” strawman response in 5…4…3…

                    Natural language is as precise a carrier of information as a computer programming language. Therefore when the receiver of the information compiles the language into the wrong ideas, the fault is in the receiver and their compiler. Error 42, straw man response. Abort, cancel, retry? The AIs responding to you all have faulty compilers.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Y'all keep trying to apply rational solutions to an irrational problem.

                        It doesn't matter what the Israelis do, we do, the world does, the Palestinians (for lack of a better term, since Palestine is mostly a British construct) hate the Jews. A visceral, religion-driven hate. Many of them live to kill Jews. Proud to kill Jews. Many times, in the most grotesque and painful way possible.

                        The Israelis will do their best to root Hamas out. They'll get a lot of them. If they're lucky, maybe a majority. But the seeds of hatred are still there. How long before the rocket attacks begin again? How long before another terrorist invasion starts? How many times does it have to happen, before effective counter measures are enacted?

                        If the Palestinians wish to live in peace, that's wonderful. Give them aid - medical, food, fuel, electricity, material goods, housing - but don't give them a penny of money. If they do not wish to live in peace, let Israel annex the West Bank as a sovereign part of Israel and let them deal with the Palestinians as they wish.

                        Personally, I think the only way to permanently deal with the situation is to make the Palestinians A)leave or B) die.

                        Hey, Putin seems to like them. There's a lot of land in East Russia...

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          I do know this much. When a bunch of dark age barbarians pull what happened on October 7th, the collective response from the Western World needs to be “Oh, hell no!” and the capacity for those people to do more of the same needs to be ended. Period. There is no room for “well, the Israelis deserved it” nope. Full stop right there. Now you are actively condoning and encouraging more of the same.

                          There is zero moral equivalence between the two sides in this war. And if you don’t see that, then you have either a weak will or a weak mind.

                          The Brad

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            I do know this much. When a bunch of dark age barbarians pull what happened on October 7th, the collective response from the Western World needs to be “Oh, hell no!” and the capacity for those people to do more of the same needs to be ended. Period. There is no room for “well, the Israelis deserved it” nope. Full stop right there. Now you are actively condoning and encouraging more of the same.

                            There is zero moral equivalence between the two sides in this war. And if you don’t see that, then you have either a weak will or a weak mind.

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                            @LuFins-Dad said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                            There is zero moral equivalence between the two sides in this war

                            Just gonna put this here:

                            Link to video

                            Shapiro talks moral equivalence at 19:00.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              I do know this much. When a bunch of dark age barbarians pull what happened on October 7th, the collective response from the Western World needs to be “Oh, hell no!” and the capacity for those people to do more of the same needs to be ended. Period. There is no room for “well, the Israelis deserved it” nope. Full stop right there. Now you are actively condoning and encouraging more of the same.

                              There is zero moral equivalence between the two sides in this war. And if you don’t see that, then you have either a weak will or a weak mind.

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                              @LuFins-Dad said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                              I do know this much. When a bunch of dark age barbarians pull what happened on October 7th, the collective response from the Western World needs to be “Oh, hell no!” and the capacity for those people to do more of the same needs to be ended. Period. There is no room for “well, the Israelis deserved it” nope. Full stop right there. Now you are actively condoning and encouraging more of the same.

                              There is zero moral equivalence between the two sides in this war. And if you don’t see that, then you have either a weak will or a weak mind.

                              They did a "man on the street" thing on Gutfeld! last night. They had a young man approaching people in NYC, asking them to sign a petition in support of Hamas. Many people were willing, but before he let them sign the petition, he read a brief proviso on Hamas core beliefs.

                              Most people would not sign the petition afterwards.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                Y'all keep trying to apply rational solutions to an irrational problem.

                                It doesn't matter what the Israelis do, we do, the world does, the Palestinians (for lack of a better term, since Palestine is mostly a British construct) hate the Jews. A visceral, religion-driven hate. Many of them live to kill Jews. Proud to kill Jews. Many times, in the most grotesque and painful way possible.

                                The Israelis will do their best to root Hamas out. They'll get a lot of them. If they're lucky, maybe a majority. But the seeds of hatred are still there. How long before the rocket attacks begin again? How long before another terrorist invasion starts? How many times does it have to happen, before effective counter measures are enacted?

                                If the Palestinians wish to live in peace, that's wonderful. Give them aid - medical, food, fuel, electricity, material goods, housing - but don't give them a penny of money. If they do not wish to live in peace, let Israel annex the West Bank as a sovereign part of Israel and let them deal with the Palestinians as they wish.

                                Personally, I think the only way to permanently deal with the situation is to make the Palestinians A)leave or B) die.

                                Hey, Putin seems to like them. There's a lot of land in East Russia...

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                                @Jolly

                                Personally, I think the only way to permanently deal with the situation is to make the Palestinians A)leave or B) die.

                                Right now your option B is the accepted rational and practicable choice.

                                Hey, Putin seems to like them. There's a lot of land in East Russia...

                                Ain’t going to happen. He does not like them that much. He has enough domestic Muslim problems as it is without importing more.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                                  There is zero moral equivalence between the two sides in this war

                                  Just gonna put this here:

                                  Link to video

                                  Shapiro talks moral equivalence at 19:00.

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                                  @George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                                  There is zero moral equivalence between the two sides in this war

                                  Just gonna put this here:

                                  Link to video

                                  Shapiro talks moral equivalence at 19:00.

                                  Wow, he is so much better in that type of setting as opposed to just trying to fill an hour on a podcast.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    @George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                                    There is zero moral equivalence between the two sides in this war

                                    Just gonna put this here:

                                    Link to video

                                    Shapiro talks moral equivalence at 19:00.

                                    Wow, he is so much better in that type of setting as opposed to just trying to fill an hour on a podcast.

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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                                    @George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                                    There is zero moral equivalence between the two sides in this war

                                    Just gonna put this here:

                                    Link to video

                                    Shapiro talks moral equivalence at 19:00.

                                    Wow, he is so much better in that type of setting as opposed to just trying to fill an hour on a podcast.

                                    Same can be said for Jordan Peterson.

                                    The public shape of a person who advocates for a tribe as a full time job, will inevitably become grotesque. It doesn't say much about them as a person or a thinker. It's just how public perception works on the internet.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      @George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                                      There is zero moral equivalence between the two sides in this war

                                      Just gonna put this here:

                                      Link to video

                                      Shapiro talks moral equivalence at 19:00.

                                      Wow, he is so much better in that type of setting as opposed to just trying to fill an hour on a podcast.

                                      jon-nycJ Online
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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                                      Wow, he is so much better in that type of setting as opposed to just trying to fill an hour on a podcast.

                                      Yeah. A few years ago I heard him on Sam Harris’s podcast and thought he’s a lot smarter and more nuanced than he comes off in the various viral clips I had seen. So I subscribed to his podcast. Listened for 10 minutes and realized he’s a totally different persona there.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                                        Wow, he is so much better in that type of setting as opposed to just trying to fill an hour on a podcast.

                                        Yeah. A few years ago I heard him on Sam Harris’s podcast and thought he’s a lot smarter and more nuanced than he comes off in the various viral clips I had seen. So I subscribed to his podcast. Listened for 10 minutes and realized he’s a totally different persona there.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                                        Wow, he is so much better in that type of setting as opposed to just trying to fill an hour on a podcast.

                                        Yeah. A few years ago I heard him on Sam Harris’s podcast and thought he’s a lot smarter and more nuanced than he comes off in the various viral clips I had seen. So I subscribed to his podcast. Listened for 10 minutes and realized he’s a totally different persona there.

                                        Watch the Oxford video George posted in the other thread.

                                        The Brad

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                                          For several folks, the setting is everything. Mark Levin, to be charitable, is grating on the radio. OTOH, his tv show on FOX (Life, Liberty, and Levin) is much lower key. And much better.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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