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  • J jon-nyc
    3 Nov 2023, 14:21

    Let’s call it the Larry Solution, though Jolly has endorsed it repeatedly. Exterminating the Palestinians in Gaza.

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    Aqua Letifer
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    @jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

    Let’s call it the Larry Solution, though Jolly has endorsed it repeatedly. Exterminating the Palestinians in Gaza.

    First my answer, then I'll try to unpack it.

    My answer is, how they say it would be more important than what they say, and my opinion I believe would hinge on that. "Unfortunately I don't see a way towards a sustained peace without radical intervention, but I hope I'm wrong about that" would be entirely different from "LIGHT EM UP!!!!!!!" If they publicly crossed some kind of empathy and understanding threshold, yeah, I'd say unemployable.

    But you said doctors. And the profession matters here. More generally, I'm quite experienced with professionals sharing crazy shit on social media channels intended to be used in a business capacity. I work at a Renaissance Faire. I buy from and have worked for several shop owners who share their alien abduction testimonials on Facebook. They send out public reminders on forums about leaving milk out for the Brownies at the start of the season. Crazy shit just comes with the territory. (Maybe they have those professions because they were indeed rendered unemployable?) Not so much for doctors, who you rely on for their empathy, understanding and reasoning.

    But I also don't know to what extent my position would be valid. It's of course completely possible to be unempathetic towards Palestinians and still provide a sound diagnosis for seasonal allergies.

    Please love yourself.

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      3 Nov 2023, 14:44

      @jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

      Let’s call it the Larry Solution, though Jolly has endorsed it repeatedly. Exterminating the Palestinians in Gaza.

      TBH, along with deporting anybody who disagrees with the Iraq war, banning the Democrat Party, making Islam illegal, America transitioning to the metric system, and numerous other proposed solutions to problems facing us all, I typically don't take these suggestions seriously.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 3 Nov 2023, 14:50 last edited by
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      @Doctor-Phibes said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

      @jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

      Let’s call it the Larry Solution, though Jolly has endorsed it repeatedly. Exterminating the Palestinians in Gaza.

      TBH, along with deporting anybody who disagrees with the Iraq war, banning the Democrat Party, making Islam illegal, America transitioning to the metric system, and numerous other proposed solutions to problems facing us all, I typically don't take these suggestions seriously.

      No doubt these physicians losing their jobs would say the same thing about their tweets of the moment.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • J jon-nyc
        3 Nov 2023, 14:50

        @Doctor-Phibes said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

        @jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

        Let’s call it the Larry Solution, though Jolly has endorsed it repeatedly. Exterminating the Palestinians in Gaza.

        TBH, along with deporting anybody who disagrees with the Iraq war, banning the Democrat Party, making Islam illegal, America transitioning to the metric system, and numerous other proposed solutions to problems facing us all, I typically don't take these suggestions seriously.

        No doubt these physicians losing their jobs would say the same thing about their tweets of the moment.

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 3 Nov 2023, 15:01 last edited by Doctor Phibes 11 Mar 2023, 15:02
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        @jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

        @Doctor-Phibes said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

        @jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

        Let’s call it the Larry Solution, though Jolly has endorsed it repeatedly. Exterminating the Palestinians in Gaza.

        TBH, along with deporting anybody who disagrees with the Iraq war, banning the Democrat Party, making Islam illegal, America transitioning to the metric system, and numerous other proposed solutions to problems facing us all, I typically don't take these suggestions seriously.

        No doubt these physicians losing their jobs would say the same thing about their tweets of the moment.

        Sure, some of the commentary here has been pretty nasty over the years. There's a touch of irony associated with the statement 'The Democrats are all modern-day fascists and should be lined up and shot!'

        And then we liberals are informed that we're the haters. If I took it seriously, I'd probably have stopped posting here, as a number of others did.

        However, I think there's a difference when the physicians are celebrating actual murders that have just occurred.

        I was only joking

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          bachophile
          wrote on 3 Nov 2023, 15:49 last edited by
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          Check out, or follow if you dare, Syrian girl ( based in Australia by the way)

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          • B bachophile
            3 Nov 2023, 15:49

            Check out, or follow if you dare, Syrian girl ( based in Australia by the way)

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            George K
            wrote on 3 Nov 2023, 17:11 last edited by
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            @bachophile said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

            Check out, or follow if you dare, Syrian girl ( based in Australia by the way)

            Wow...

            She's a "Journalist |Think Tank Analyst | Scientist."

            https://twitter.com/Partisangirl

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • B bachophile
              3 Nov 2023, 15:49

              Check out, or follow if you dare, Syrian girl ( based in Australia by the way)

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 3 Nov 2023, 17:43 last edited by Doctor Phibes 11 Mar 2023, 17:45
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              @bachophile said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

              Check out, or follow if you dare, Syrian girl ( based in Australia by the way)

              God, these people are so depressing. When I first looked, I'd assumed she was an anonymous troll, but apparently she's real.

              I was only joking

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                bachophile
                wrote on 3 Nov 2023, 18:22 last edited by
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                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maram_Susli

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                • B bachophile
                  3 Nov 2023, 18:22

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maram_Susli

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 3 Nov 2023, 18:36 last edited by Renauda 11 Mar 2023, 18:38
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                  @bachophile

                  From the WiKi link:

                  She has published in the Duginist Journal of Eurasian Affairs…

                  That alone is enough for me, thank you.

                  Elbows up!

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 3 Nov 2023, 18:44 last edited by
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                    She looks like Syria's answer to Milo Yiannopoulos.

                    I was only joking

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                    • J jon-nyc
                      3 Nov 2023, 13:16

                      Serious question, I’d like all to weigh in.

                      If publicly pushing the ‘river to sea’ message should render her unemployable as she’s a threat to Jewish patients, what about a physician who advocates the Jolly solution on their social media?

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 3 Nov 2023, 23:19 last edited by LuFins Dad 11 Mar 2023, 23:34
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                      @jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                      Serious question, I’d like all to weigh in.

                      If publicly pushing the ‘river to sea’ message should render her unemployable as she’s a threat to Jewish patients, what about a physician who advocates the Jolly solution on their social media?

                      Whoa, wait a minute. You are starting with a false premise. As far as I can tell, nobody was dismissed for promoting “From the River to the Sea”. They were dismissed for celebrating, promoting, and glorifying the murders, beheadings, rapes, and tortures of over 1200 innocent children, men, and women. They are rejoicing in the savage beheading of a grandmother, whose killers used the woman’s own phone to video the killing and then posted the video to the woman’s Facebook account and sharing it to her friends and family via messenger. They referred to this as a glorious day and a good start. That’s why they were dismissed. And quite frankly, anybody that celebrates and revels in that butchery is either insane or has no place living in a modern western liberal nation.

                      The Brad

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                        George K
                        wrote on 3 Nov 2023, 23:48 last edited by George K 11 Mar 2023, 23:49
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                        Speaking of "From the River to the Sea"....

                        https://twitter.com/RashidaTlaib

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                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • L LuFins Dad
                          3 Nov 2023, 23:19

                          @jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                          Serious question, I’d like all to weigh in.

                          If publicly pushing the ‘river to sea’ message should render her unemployable as she’s a threat to Jewish patients, what about a physician who advocates the Jolly solution on their social media?

                          Whoa, wait a minute. You are starting with a false premise. As far as I can tell, nobody was dismissed for promoting “From the River to the Sea”. They were dismissed for celebrating, promoting, and glorifying the murders, beheadings, rapes, and tortures of over 1200 innocent children, men, and women. They are rejoicing in the savage beheading of a grandmother, whose killers used the woman’s own phone to video the killing and then posted the video to the woman’s Facebook account and sharing it to her friends and family via messenger. They referred to this as a glorious day and a good start. That’s why they were dismissed. And quite frankly, anybody that celebrates and revels in that butchery is either insane or has no place living in a modern western liberal nation.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 4 Nov 2023, 01:22 last edited by
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                          @LuFins-Dad

                          The endodontist from Boston was fired for tearing down posters of kidnapping victims.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                          • J jon-nyc
                            4 Nov 2023, 01:22

                            @LuFins-Dad

                            The endodontist from Boston was fired for tearing down posters of kidnapping victims.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 4 Nov 2023, 01:29 last edited by
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                            Have we reached a point where the pendulum of "cancel culture" has swung too far to the opposite end?

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 4 Nov 2023, 01:38 last edited by
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                              Cancel culture swung too far in 2020 at the latest.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • J jon-nyc
                                4 Nov 2023, 01:38

                                Cancel culture swung too far in 2020 at the latest.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 4 Nov 2023, 01:41 last edited by
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                                @jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                                Cancel culture swung too far in 2020 at the latest.

                                Of course it did. My question is whether the swing back is too extreme.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 4 Nov 2023, 01:42 last edited by
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                                  We’re not witnessing a swing back, we’re witnessing it becoming a bipartisan pastime.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 4 Nov 2023, 01:45 last edited by jon-nyc 11 Apr 2023, 01:46
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                                    We’ve always had “cancel culture” in the sense that there were always things you could espouse that would get you kicked out of institutions.

                                    What changed in 2020 (starting earlier than that, to be sure) is that a small ideological minority got significant control of the “institutional overton window” (if I may coin a phrase) and started canceling people for espousing opinions that had significant, even majority support.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    • J jon-nyc
                                      4 Nov 2023, 01:42

                                      We’re not witnessing a swing back, we’re witnessing it becoming a bipartisan pastime.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 4 Nov 2023, 01:48 last edited by
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                                      @jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                                      We’re not witnessing a swing back, we’re witnessing it becoming a bipartisan pastime.

                                      Cue “both sides are equal” strawman response in 5…4…3…

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • J jon-nyc
                                        4 Nov 2023, 01:22

                                        @LuFins-Dad

                                        The endodontist from Boston was fired for tearing down posters of kidnapping victims.

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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on 4 Nov 2023, 01:55 last edited by
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                                        @jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                                        @LuFins-Dad

                                        The endodontist from Boston was fired for tearing down posters of kidnapping victims.

                                        That’s still a far cry from simply espousing “From the River to the Sea” which many people just take to mean the abolishment of Israel and the establishment of a Palestinian/Arab nation…

                                        Minimizing Cancel Culture does not mean the removal of repercussions..

                                        The Brad

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                                        • J jon-nyc
                                          4 Nov 2023, 01:48

                                          @jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                                          We’re not witnessing a swing back, we’re witnessing it becoming a bipartisan pastime.

                                          Cue “both sides are equal” strawman response in 5…4…3…

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on 4 Nov 2023, 03:10 last edited by
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                                          @jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                                          @jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                                          We’re not witnessing a swing back, we’re witnessing it becoming a bipartisan pastime.

                                          Cue “both sides are equal” strawman response in 5…4…3…

                                          Natural language is as precise a carrier of information as a computer programming language. Therefore when the receiver of the information compiles the language into the wrong ideas, the fault is in the receiver and their compiler. Error 42, straw man response. Abort, cancel, retry? The AIs responding to you all have faulty compilers.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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