More strange and/or foul reactions
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wrote on 20 Oct 2023, 22:01 last edited by
We are in a moment when the emotional content of conversation is being litigated, rather than the logical content of the conversation. We're always in that moment to some extent, but firmly in it about Israel now. Since people are getting murdered due to emotional content of the words they've heard through their lives, I guess this is necessary. A "just asking questions" defense is not very compelling from that perspective.
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wrote on 22 Oct 2023, 19:01 last edited by bachophile
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wrote on 22 Oct 2023, 19:30 last edited by
@bachophile said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
Interesting thread.
Also have a look at his x page.
@tprincato
I think he can lose his license for saying he sedated someone to shut them up.
I saw that earlier, it looks like he’s cleaned his account. Would the nurse face repercussions, too?
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wrote on 22 Oct 2023, 19:32 last edited by
@bachophile said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
Interesting thread.
Also have a look at his x page.
@tprincato
I think he can lose his license for saying he sedated someone to shut them up.
Looks like everything is gone.
However, he should have his license, suspended or revoked for being stupid enough to say something like that in public.
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wrote on 22 Oct 2023, 19:47 last edited by
I guess conservatives are supposed to go back to disliking Chappelle
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wrote on 22 Oct 2023, 20:04 last edited by
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"How is making life more difficult for the citizens of Berlin something that helps the British?"
There's a question that the BBC probably never asked.
wrote on 22 Oct 2023, 20:21 last edited by Doctor Phibes@George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
"How is making life more difficult for the citizens of Berlin something that helps the British?"
There's a question that the BBC probably never asked.
I think the necessity of the carpet bombing of Dresden was something that was questioned. My dad had friends who had taken part in it, and they had indicated that were mixed feelings about it even amongst the people flying the aircraft.
It's certainly been questioned since the war ended.
Did the foreign press get a chance to ask the British government about their war thinking? Because CNN isn't Israeli, after all. I'm not sure the two conflicts or time-periods are really comparable, but I do believe that the media should be asking difficult questions of all sides. If something is easily defensible, then it should be easy to answer the question.
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wrote on 22 Oct 2023, 22:11 last edited by
Yes, the morality of the Dresden bombing has been questioned, but only in hindsight.
Yet the Beeb never asked that question at the time. And that's my point. I don't think your explanation that time/conflict differences gives a pass. Either it's moral or it's not, and the BBC questioned the morality of the Israelis, but not of its own government.
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wrote on 22 Oct 2023, 22:11 last edited by
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@George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
"How is making life more difficult for the citizens of Berlin something that helps the British?"
There's a question that the BBC probably never asked.
I think the necessity of the carpet bombing of Dresden was something that was questioned. My dad had friends who had taken part in it, and they had indicated that were mixed feelings about it even amongst the people flying the aircraft.
It's certainly been questioned since the war ended.
Did the foreign press get a chance to ask the British government about their war thinking? Because CNN isn't Israeli, after all. I'm not sure the two conflicts or time-periods are really comparable, but I do believe that the media should be asking difficult questions of all sides. If something is easily defensible, then it should be easy to answer the question.
wrote on 22 Oct 2023, 22:30 last edited by RenaudaI think the necessity of the carpet bombing of Dresden was something that was questioned. My dad had friends who had taken part in it, and they had indicated that were mixed feelings about it even amongst the people flying the aircraft.
It's certainly been questioned since the war ended.
As I pointed out to Jolly yesterday, Dresden was a legitimate target for bombing. Not only was it a major rail hub into the east but it also had over 120 business that manufactured or assembled war material for the German army. The city was much more to German war effort than porcelain finery and dolls as the revisionist historians go to lengths portray it.
There was some public debate about the RCAF’s role in the bombing of Dresden back in the 80’s or 90’s. The CBC even did a documentary series on it and the RCAF under Bomber Harris’ command.
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wrote on 22 Oct 2023, 22:34 last edited by George K
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wrote on 22 Oct 2023, 22:40 last edited by
If nothing else, we can see that human thoughts and feels are a product of cultural programming. Not likely that these people are measurably pathological. Just programmed differently.
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wrote on 22 Oct 2023, 22:44 last edited by
I'm a bit surprised at the medical professionals and their attitudes. Are we admitting the wrong people to medical and professional schools?
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wrote on 22 Oct 2023, 23:50 last edited by
Dr. Al-Abeeb's page at the practice...
https://www.marcnevinsdmd.com/our-team/dr-zena-al-adeeb/
Is gone.
She trained at BU, graduating in 2006.
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Yes, the morality of the Dresden bombing has been questioned, but only in hindsight.
Yet the Beeb never asked that question at the time. And that's my point. I don't think your explanation that time/conflict differences gives a pass. Either it's moral or it's not, and the BBC questioned the morality of the Israelis, but not of its own government.
wrote on 23 Oct 2023, 00:12 last edited by Doctor Phibes@George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
Yes, the morality of the Dresden bombing has been questioned, but only in hindsight.
Yet the Beeb never asked that question at the time. And that's my point. I don't think your explanation that time/conflict differences gives a pass. Either it's moral or it's not, and the BBC questioned the morality of the Israelis, but not of its own government.
The clip we were referring to was CNN rather than the BBC, but ok.
However, it's really not up to the BBC or any news organization to decide what is moral or not. It is however their responsibility to ask questions of our governments. Just declaring a consensus isn't particularly democratic.
And in more recent conflicts than WW2 the BBC have asked questions of their own government. The modern BBC is considerably more likely to ask difficult questions than it was in the 1940's.
And speaking of questions, both American news organizations and American citizens were happy to ask questions and in some cases express opinions regarding the British conduct during the Northern Ireland conflict. How is that different from this situation, other than in scale, and admittedly the level of horror involved?
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wrote on 23 Oct 2023, 01:02 last edited by
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wrote on 23 Oct 2023, 01:04 last edited by
It is entirely true.
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wrote on 28 Oct 2023, 19:37 last edited by
That’s it. no more a-whoring for me.
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wrote on 29 Oct 2023, 01:07 last edited by
They said explicit...solidarity.
