Hamas attacks Israel

[Horace]

Apparently he's trying to appeal to the fantasy that a population can't be systematically programmed by the dominant culture, to hold ideas that would be considered evil by progressive Western standards. No, all such idea holders are marginal, in every culture ever known to man, because western values are actually universal values, and everybody is born knowing the truth of them.

[bachophile]

[George K]

@bachophile the sigh...LOL.

[Jolly]

@Wim said in Hamas attacks Israel:

@Jolly As I said before: I feel absolutely NO sympathy for Hamas. But I bet that most of those dead children weren't carrying AK47's.
And no: I'm not an anti-Israelite.

If not for killing civilians, you might well be flying a swastika on your nation's flag. The Allies killed close to four million German civilians.

[George K]

@Jolly said in Hamas attacks Israel:

If not for killing civilians

[Jolly]

I have no mercy for people like that. Nor for the people that support them.

[George K]

Copied from the other thread, where it shouldn't have been posted.

But, whatever...

Hamas insists permanent ceasefire needed for hostage deal

Hamas publicly insisted Tuesday that a permanent ceasefire must be in place before any deal is implemented for the release of the remaining 134 hostages held in Gaza, in a statement that seemed to run counter to optimism from Washington that an agreement was possible before the start of the holy month of Ramadan.

“In the past two days, the movement presented its position on the proposal put forward by the brotherly Qatari and Egyptian mediators,” senior Hamas official Osama Hamdan said in Beirut.

He spoke as ceasefire talks mediated by both Egypt and Qatar continued in Cairo with no sign of a breakthrough.

“We reaffirmed our conditions for a ceasefire: a full pullout from the Strip and the return of the displaced [Palestinians] from areas they left, in particular in the north,” he said.

Wasn't there a cease-fire in place on October 6?

[LuFins Dad]

No. Just no. Hamas dies. Anybody stand between Hamas and Israel? They’ve cast their lot as well.

[George K]

The Egyptians built a wall. That tells you everything you need to know.

[taiwan_girl]

President Trump talks about Isreal war.

“You’ve got to finish the problem,” Trump said on Fox News on Tuesday when asked about the war. “You had a horrible invasion that took place that would have never happened if I was president.”

First part, I agree with. Second part, well he is a legend in his own mind.

[George K]

[George K]

Wow. Fatah speaks.

[taiwan_girl]

@George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

Wow. Fatah speaks.

So, are Fatah, Hamas, and Hezbollah three groups in the area?

[Mik]

Hezbollah is mostly in Lebanon, but they’re another Iranian proxy.

[George K]

Remember that "Hezbollah" means "Party of Allah."

That's all you need to know.

[Renauda]

Also Hezbollah is a led by Shia Muslim fanatics and Hamas is led by Sunni Muslim fanatics. While that sectarian difference means little to most people outside Islam, it is a big deal within the religion. Their only common mission is the annihilation of Israel. Beyond that Hamas and Hezbollah hate one another with a passion and would be content to terrorize one another on an ongoing basis in the absence of the Jewish state.

[George K]

[George K]

"I have studied the maps. There is nowhere for those folks to go."

Umm...Egypt is about 20 meters away. Why do you think that is, Madam Vice President?

[Mik]

I'd feel better about their position if I didn't think it was about the election. They don't want to lose the young folks while I suspect in private they are fine with Israel's actions.

[George K]

@Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

They don't want to lose the young folks while I suspect in private they are fine with Israel's actions.

And the "young folks" are woefully ignorant.

But yeah, there's probably more than a bit of cynicism warranted.