Hamas attacks Israel
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 22:58 last edited by Renauda 10 Sept 2023, 23:16
It’s a war, a war between Hamas and Israel in which Hamas fired the first shot in aggression. Israel is defending itself.
Not sure if you’ll find many parallels, Hamas is not a sovereign state and nor is there a recognised Palestinian state. In that sense it’s sort of like a civil war (which it is not) and sort of like, what Putin has called, a special military operation, but a purely defensive and justifiable SMO and one with a clearly defined objective - the annihilation of Hamas as a criminal and para military terrorist organisation. But on second thought it’s not an SMO either.
So for now let’s settle with; it’s a war. Much more to the point.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 23:14 last edited by
The very act of destroying Hamas creates Hamas. I’d call it a Hydra, but it’s much more insidious than that.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 23:18 last edited by Renauda 10 Sept 2023, 23:54
LD, you can’t reason with fanatics, they must be annihilated. A major part of the hydra is made up of fanatics, Islamic fanatics at that.
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On Bari Weiss’s podcast she interviewed a mom whose 12 and 16 year olds were abducted.
It’s hard to listen to.
wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:01 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:
On Bari Weiss’s podcast she interviewed a mom whose 12 and 16 year olds were abducted.
It’s hard to listen to.
I’m sure it is. Think I’ll skip that one.
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LD, you can’t reason with fanatics, they must be annihilated. A major part of the hydra is made up of fanatics, Islamic fanatics at that.
wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:04 last edited by@Renauda said in Hamas attacks Israel:
LD, you can’t reason with fanatics, they must be annihilated. A major part of the hydra is made up of fanatics, Islamic fanatics at that.
I don’t disagree. I just think that direction will have to go much farther than what I believe most westerners will ever accept.
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wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:11 last edited by
I would have no issue.
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They can sleep on the rocks and drink seawater.
Renauda is right.
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@George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:
The UN Human Rights Council
"And elsewhere."
The UN is the worst fvcking joke played on the world.
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wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 01:14 last edited by LuFins Dad 10 Oct 2023, 01:17
Bolivia, China, Côte d'Ivoire, Cuba, France, Gabon, Malawi, Mexico, Nepal, Pakistan, Russian Federation, Senegal, Ukraine, United Kingdom and Uzbekistan. LOL
Malawi still has witch trials. Literally.
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Bolivia, China, Côte d'Ivoire, Cuba, France, Gabon, Malawi, Mexico, Nepal, Pakistan, Russian Federation, Senegal, Ukraine, United Kingdom and Uzbekistan. LOL
Malawi still has witch trials. Literally.
wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 01:34 last edited by Renauda 10 Oct 2023, 01:40Other than Malawi having witch trials, why LOL?
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Other than Malawi having witch trials, why LOL?
wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 02:40 last edited by@Renauda said in Hamas attacks Israel:
Other than Malawi having witch trials, why LOL?
China still utilizes slave labor. Russia has committed countless war crimes in the invasion of Ukraine, and assassination is still a preferred political strategy. The military in the Ivory Coast still regularly torture and rape their own citizens. Senegal is a little better, but not much. And do I even need to talk about the UK?
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wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 02:43 last edited by Renauda 10 Oct 2023, 04:14
Yes you do, what about the UK?
On second thought don’t answer the question here, start another thread so as not to derail this one.
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also the defense mnister galant just announced what will basically be a middle ages seige on gaza. no food, water fuel or supplies to be allowed in. all kid gloves are coming off
wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 12:43 last edited by@bachophile said:
the defense mnister galant just announced what will basically be a middle ages seige on gaza. no food, water fuel or supplies to be allowed in. all kid gloves are coming off
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wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 12:46 last edited by
All very predictable.
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wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 12:52 last edited by
Civilization and savagery are fundamentally at war.
We’re in a war between savages and civilization. Everything else is a detail.
Some of us woke up to that war when planes crashed into skyscrapers. Others when we saw beheading videos spread across social media. What we saw in Israel, Hamas terrorists raping, mutilating and defiling corpses, is another bloody wake-up call. There will be many others.
Beyond the politics and the geopolitics, we still haven’t come to terms with what we’re fighting.
The barbarism of murdering women and children, taking them as hostages, and posting photos of their dead bodies to social media, is not a byproduct of Islamic warfare, it’s the whole point.
Cruelty, beheading, burning to death, torturing and mutilating are the essence of Islam. This is how Islamic warfare was practiced beginning with Mohammed for over a thousand years. It’s how it continues to be practiced, whether it’s ISIS fighting other Muslims, Azebajani troops killing Armenians, Hamas attacking Israelis, or Islamic terrorists plotting carnage in Western nations.
Islam was born out of a war by barbarians against the civilized societies of Persia and Byzantium. Despite academic mythmaking, its vision never extended beyond rape and slavery, its empires fell into power struggles, beginning with Sunnis and Shiites, and its cultural and scientific accomplishments were all looted from conquered peoples. When civilization finally toppled the Ottoman Empire with some help from its internal barbarians, the cycle began again.
Waiting for @jon-nyc ....
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wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 13:17 last edited by
At a certain point, civilization must triumph. To do that, we have to eradicate barbarism.
Personally, I prefer a method that is most thorough and represents the least risk to civilization.