Hamas attacks Israel
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It’s a war, a war between Hamas and Israel in which Hamas fired the first shot in aggression. Israel is defending itself.
Not sure if you’ll find many parallels, Hamas is not a sovereign state and nor is there a recognised Palestinian state. In that sense it’s sort of like a civil war (which it is not) and sort of like, what Putin has called, a special military operation, but a purely defensive and justifiable SMO and one with a clearly defined objective - the annihilation of Hamas as a criminal and para military terrorist organisation. But on second thought it’s not an SMO either.
So for now let’s settle with; it’s a war. Much more to the point.
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The very act of destroying Hamas creates Hamas. I’d call it a Hydra, but it’s much more insidious than that.
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@jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:
On Bari Weiss’s podcast she interviewed a mom whose 12 and 16 year olds were abducted.
It’s hard to listen to.
I’m sure it is. Think I’ll skip that one.
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@Renauda said in Hamas attacks Israel:
LD, you can’t reason with fanatics, they must be annihilated. A major part of the hydra is made up of fanatics, Islamic fanatics at that.
I don’t disagree. I just think that direction will have to go much farther than what I believe most westerners will ever accept.
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They can sleep on the rocks and drink seawater.
Renauda is right.
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@George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:
The UN Human Rights Council
"And elsewhere."
The UN is the worst fvcking joke played on the world.
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Bolivia, China, Côte d'Ivoire, Cuba, France, Gabon, Malawi, Mexico, Nepal, Pakistan, Russian Federation, Senegal, Ukraine, United Kingdom and Uzbekistan. LOL
Malawi still has witch trials. Literally.
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Other than Malawi having witch trials, why LOL?
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@Renauda said in Hamas attacks Israel:
Other than Malawi having witch trials, why LOL?
China still utilizes slave labor. Russia has committed countless war crimes in the invasion of Ukraine, and assassination is still a preferred political strategy. The military in the Ivory Coast still regularly torture and rape their own citizens. Senegal is a little better, but not much. And do I even need to talk about the UK?
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@bachophile said:
the defense mnister galant just announced what will basically be a middle ages seige on gaza. no food, water fuel or supplies to be allowed in. all kid gloves are coming off
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Civilization and savagery are fundamentally at war.
We’re in a war between savages and civilization. Everything else is a detail.
Some of us woke up to that war when planes crashed into skyscrapers. Others when we saw beheading videos spread across social media. What we saw in Israel, Hamas terrorists raping, mutilating and defiling corpses, is another bloody wake-up call. There will be many others.
Beyond the politics and the geopolitics, we still haven’t come to terms with what we’re fighting.
The barbarism of murdering women and children, taking them as hostages, and posting photos of their dead bodies to social media, is not a byproduct of Islamic warfare, it’s the whole point.
Cruelty, beheading, burning to death, torturing and mutilating are the essence of Islam. This is how Islamic warfare was practiced beginning with Mohammed for over a thousand years. It’s how it continues to be practiced, whether it’s ISIS fighting other Muslims, Azebajani troops killing Armenians, Hamas attacking Israelis, or Islamic terrorists plotting carnage in Western nations.
Islam was born out of a war by barbarians against the civilized societies of Persia and Byzantium. Despite academic mythmaking, its vision never extended beyond rape and slavery, its empires fell into power struggles, beginning with Sunnis and Shiites, and its cultural and scientific accomplishments were all looted from conquered peoples. When civilization finally toppled the Ottoman Empire with some help from its internal barbarians, the cycle began again.
Waiting for @jon-nyc ....