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    Horace
    wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:52 last edited by
    #192

    I am sure parallels to Dresden and Hiroshima exist.

    Education is extremely important.

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      Renauda
      wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 22:58 last edited by Renauda 10 Sept 2023, 23:16
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      It’s a war, a war between Hamas and Israel in which Hamas fired the first shot in aggression. Israel is defending itself.

      Not sure if you’ll find many parallels, Hamas is not a sovereign state and nor is there a recognised Palestinian state. In that sense it’s sort of like a civil war (which it is not) and sort of like, what Putin has called, a special military operation, but a purely defensive and justifiable SMO and one with a clearly defined objective - the annihilation of Hamas as a criminal and para military terrorist organisation. But on second thought it’s not an SMO either.

      So for now let’s settle with; it’s a war. Much more to the point.

      Elbows up!

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 23:14 last edited by
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        The very act of destroying Hamas creates Hamas. I’d call it a Hydra, but it’s much more insidious than that.

        The Brad

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          Renauda
          wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 23:18 last edited by Renauda 10 Sept 2023, 23:54
          #195

          LD, you can’t reason with fanatics, they must be annihilated. A major part of the hydra is made up of fanatics, Islamic fanatics at that.

          Elbows up!

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          • J jon-nyc
            9 Oct 2023, 21:26

            On Bari Weiss’s podcast she interviewed a mom whose 12 and 16 year olds were abducted.

            It’s hard to listen to.

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:01 last edited by
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            @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

            On Bari Weiss’s podcast she interviewed a mom whose 12 and 16 year olds were abducted.

            It’s hard to listen to.

            I’m sure it is. Think I’ll skip that one.

            The Brad

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              9 Oct 2023, 23:18

              LD, you can’t reason with fanatics, they must be annihilated. A major part of the hydra is made up of fanatics, Islamic fanatics at that.

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:04 last edited by
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              @Renauda said in Hamas attacks Israel:

              LD, you can’t reason with fanatics, they must be annihilated. A major part of the hydra is made up of fanatics, Islamic fanatics at that.

              I don’t disagree. I just think that direction will have to go much farther than what I believe most westerners will ever accept.

              The Brad

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                Renauda
                wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:11 last edited by
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                I would have no issue.

                Elbows up!

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                  George K
                  wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:15 last edited by
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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:19 last edited by
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                    Jesus...

                    Almost to glass:

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:39 last edited by
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                      They can sleep on the rocks and drink seawater.

                      Renauda is right.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • J Jolly
                        10 Oct 2023, 00:39

                        They can sleep on the rocks and drink seawater.

                        Renauda is right.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:41 last edited by
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                        @Jolly said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                        They can sleep on the rocks and drink seawater.

                        In the dark...

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 01:10 last edited by
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                          The UN Human Rights Council

                          "And elsewhere."

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • G George K
                            10 Oct 2023, 01:10

                            The UN Human Rights Council

                            "And elsewhere."

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 01:13 last edited by
                            #204

                            @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                            The UN Human Rights Council

                            "And elsewhere."

                            The UN is the worst fvcking joke played on the world.

                            The Brad

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 01:14 last edited by LuFins Dad 10 Oct 2023, 01:17
                              #205

                              Bolivia, China, Côte d'Ivoire, Cuba, France, Gabon, Malawi, Mexico, Nepal, Pakistan, Russian Federation, Senegal, Ukraine, United Kingdom and Uzbekistan. LOL

                              Malawi still has witch trials. Literally.

                              The Brad

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                              • L LuFins Dad
                                10 Oct 2023, 01:14

                                Bolivia, China, Côte d'Ivoire, Cuba, France, Gabon, Malawi, Mexico, Nepal, Pakistan, Russian Federation, Senegal, Ukraine, United Kingdom and Uzbekistan. LOL

                                Malawi still has witch trials. Literally.

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 01:34 last edited by Renauda 10 Oct 2023, 01:40
                                #206

                                @LuFins-Dad

                                Other than Malawi having witch trials, why LOL?

                                Elbows up!

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                                  10 Oct 2023, 01:34

                                  @LuFins-Dad

                                  Other than Malawi having witch trials, why LOL?

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 02:40 last edited by
                                  #207

                                  @Renauda said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                  @LuFins-Dad

                                  Other than Malawi having witch trials, why LOL?

                                  China still utilizes slave labor. Russia has committed countless war crimes in the invasion of Ukraine, and assassination is still a preferred political strategy. The military in the Ivory Coast still regularly torture and rape their own citizens. Senegal is a little better, but not much. And do I even need to talk about the UK?

                                  The Brad

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 02:43 last edited by Renauda 10 Oct 2023, 04:14
                                    #208

                                    Yes you do, what about the UK?

                                    On second thought don’t answer the question here, start another thread so as not to derail this one.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • B bachophile
                                      9 Oct 2023, 12:27

                                      also the defense mnister galant just announced what will basically be a middle ages seige on gaza. no food, water fuel or supplies to be allowed in. all kid gloves are coming off

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 12:43 last edited by
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                                      @bachophile said:

                                      the defense mnister galant just announced what will basically be a middle ages seige on gaza. no food, water fuel or supplies to be allowed in. all kid gloves are coming off

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 12:46 last edited by
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                                        All very predictable.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 12:52 last edited by
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                                          Civilization and savagery are fundamentally at war.

                                          We’re in a war between savages and civilization. Everything else is a detail.

                                          Some of us woke up to that war when planes crashed into skyscrapers. Others when we saw beheading videos spread across social media. What we saw in Israel, Hamas terrorists raping, mutilating and defiling corpses, is another bloody wake-up call. There will be many others.

                                          Beyond the politics and the geopolitics, we still haven’t come to terms with what we’re fighting.

                                          The barbarism of murdering women and children, taking them as hostages, and posting photos of their dead bodies to social media, is not a byproduct of Islamic warfare, it’s the whole point.

                                          Cruelty, beheading, burning to death, torturing and mutilating are the essence of Islam. This is how Islamic warfare was practiced beginning with Mohammed for over a thousand years. It’s how it continues to be practiced, whether it’s ISIS fighting other Muslims, Azebajani troops killing Armenians, Hamas attacking Israelis, or Islamic terrorists plotting carnage in Western nations.

                                          Islam was born out of a war by barbarians against the civilized societies of Persia and Byzantium. Despite academic mythmaking, its vision never extended beyond rape and slavery, its empires fell into power struggles, beginning with Sunnis and Shiites, and its cultural and scientific accomplishments were all looted from conquered peoples. When civilization finally toppled the Ottoman Empire with some help from its internal barbarians, the cycle began again.

                                          Waiting for @jon-nyc ....

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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