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Hamas attacks Israel

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    Copper
    wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:30 last edited by
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    From a BBC story in March

    Israeli gun ownership is low at about 2% of the population. It compares to about 30% of the population owning a gun in the US.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-65110881

    I'm surprised to see it that low.

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      Copper
      wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:40 last edited by
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      Israeli airspace at the moment

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      Note the drone(?) in the south

      No registration (just Israel), No Type

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        Copper
        wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:45 last edited by Copper 10 Sept 2023, 21:45
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        Interesting flight path on this Israeli military plane

        There are a few Israeli military planes up, they all look like this

        The few commercial flights leaving Tel Aviv look normal

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          Horace
          wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:45 last edited by
          #190

          I don’t know how to interpret this as a war. Is there a way to target those responsible for the terrorist attack? Is turning Gaza into glass a close enough approximation?

          Education is extremely important.

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            Copper
            wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:49 last edited by
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            Isn't calling it a war something you do to establish new rules, not necessarily actions?

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              Horace
              wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:52 last edited by
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              I am sure parallels to Dresden and Hiroshima exist.

              Education is extremely important.

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                Renauda
                wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 22:58 last edited by Renauda 10 Sept 2023, 23:16
                #193

                It’s a war, a war between Hamas and Israel in which Hamas fired the first shot in aggression. Israel is defending itself.

                Not sure if you’ll find many parallels, Hamas is not a sovereign state and nor is there a recognised Palestinian state. In that sense it’s sort of like a civil war (which it is not) and sort of like, what Putin has called, a special military operation, but a purely defensive and justifiable SMO and one with a clearly defined objective - the annihilation of Hamas as a criminal and para military terrorist organisation. But on second thought it’s not an SMO either.

                So for now let’s settle with; it’s a war. Much more to the point.

                Elbows up!

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 23:14 last edited by
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                  The very act of destroying Hamas creates Hamas. I’d call it a Hydra, but it’s much more insidious than that.

                  The Brad

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                    Renauda
                    wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 23:18 last edited by Renauda 10 Sept 2023, 23:54
                    #195

                    LD, you can’t reason with fanatics, they must be annihilated. A major part of the hydra is made up of fanatics, Islamic fanatics at that.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • J jon-nyc
                      9 Oct 2023, 21:26

                      On Bari Weiss’s podcast she interviewed a mom whose 12 and 16 year olds were abducted.

                      It’s hard to listen to.

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:01 last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                      On Bari Weiss’s podcast she interviewed a mom whose 12 and 16 year olds were abducted.

                      It’s hard to listen to.

                      I’m sure it is. Think I’ll skip that one.

                      The Brad

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                        9 Oct 2023, 23:18

                        LD, you can’t reason with fanatics, they must be annihilated. A major part of the hydra is made up of fanatics, Islamic fanatics at that.

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:04 last edited by
                        #197

                        @Renauda said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                        LD, you can’t reason with fanatics, they must be annihilated. A major part of the hydra is made up of fanatics, Islamic fanatics at that.

                        I don’t disagree. I just think that direction will have to go much farther than what I believe most westerners will ever accept.

                        The Brad

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:11 last edited by
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                          I would have no issue.

                          Elbows up!

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                            George K
                            wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:15 last edited by
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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:19 last edited by
                              #200

                              Jesus...

                              Almost to glass:

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:39 last edited by
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                                They can sleep on the rocks and drink seawater.

                                Renauda is right.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • J Jolly
                                  10 Oct 2023, 00:39

                                  They can sleep on the rocks and drink seawater.

                                  Renauda is right.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:41 last edited by
                                  #202

                                  @Jolly said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                  They can sleep on the rocks and drink seawater.

                                  In the dark...

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 01:10 last edited by
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                                    The UN Human Rights Council

                                    "And elsewhere."

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      10 Oct 2023, 01:10

                                      The UN Human Rights Council

                                      "And elsewhere."

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 01:13 last edited by
                                      #204

                                      @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                      The UN Human Rights Council

                                      "And elsewhere."

                                      The UN is the worst fvcking joke played on the world.

                                      The Brad

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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 01:14 last edited by LuFins Dad 10 Oct 2023, 01:17
                                        #205

                                        Bolivia, China, Côte d'Ivoire, Cuba, France, Gabon, Malawi, Mexico, Nepal, Pakistan, Russian Federation, Senegal, Ukraine, United Kingdom and Uzbekistan. LOL

                                        Malawi still has witch trials. Literally.

                                        The Brad

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                                        • L LuFins Dad
                                          10 Oct 2023, 01:14

                                          Bolivia, China, Côte d'Ivoire, Cuba, France, Gabon, Malawi, Mexico, Nepal, Pakistan, Russian Federation, Senegal, Ukraine, United Kingdom and Uzbekistan. LOL

                                          Malawi still has witch trials. Literally.

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 01:34 last edited by Renauda 10 Oct 2023, 01:40
                                          #206

                                          @LuFins-Dad

                                          Other than Malawi having witch trials, why LOL?

                                          Elbows up!

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