Hamas attacks Israel
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:08 last edited by
I do not like that "no mercy anymore."
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:24 last edited by
Israeli death toll up to 800. “At least” 150 hostages.
Jesus.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:26 last edited by
On Bari Weiss’s podcast she interviewed a mom whose 12 and 16 year olds were abducted.
It’s hard to listen to.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:30 last edited by
From a BBC story in March
Israeli gun ownership is low at about 2% of the population. It compares to about 30% of the population owning a gun in the US.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-65110881
I'm surprised to see it that low.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:40 last edited by
Israeli airspace at the moment
Note the drone(?) in the south
No registration (just Israel), No Type
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:45 last edited by Copper 10 Sept 2023, 21:45
Interesting flight path on this Israeli military plane
There are a few Israeli military planes up, they all look like this
The few commercial flights leaving Tel Aviv look normal
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:45 last edited by
I don’t know how to interpret this as a war. Is there a way to target those responsible for the terrorist attack? Is turning Gaza into glass a close enough approximation?
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:49 last edited by
Isn't calling it a war something you do to establish new rules, not necessarily actions?
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:52 last edited by
I am sure parallels to Dresden and Hiroshima exist.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 22:58 last edited by Renauda 10 Sept 2023, 23:16
It’s a war, a war between Hamas and Israel in which Hamas fired the first shot in aggression. Israel is defending itself.
Not sure if you’ll find many parallels, Hamas is not a sovereign state and nor is there a recognised Palestinian state. In that sense it’s sort of like a civil war (which it is not) and sort of like, what Putin has called, a special military operation, but a purely defensive and justifiable SMO and one with a clearly defined objective - the annihilation of Hamas as a criminal and para military terrorist organisation. But on second thought it’s not an SMO either.
So for now let’s settle with; it’s a war. Much more to the point.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 23:14 last edited by
The very act of destroying Hamas creates Hamas. I’d call it a Hydra, but it’s much more insidious than that.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 23:18 last edited by Renauda 10 Sept 2023, 23:54
LD, you can’t reason with fanatics, they must be annihilated. A major part of the hydra is made up of fanatics, Islamic fanatics at that.
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On Bari Weiss’s podcast she interviewed a mom whose 12 and 16 year olds were abducted.
It’s hard to listen to.
wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:01 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:
On Bari Weiss’s podcast she interviewed a mom whose 12 and 16 year olds were abducted.
It’s hard to listen to.
I’m sure it is. Think I’ll skip that one.
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LD, you can’t reason with fanatics, they must be annihilated. A major part of the hydra is made up of fanatics, Islamic fanatics at that.
wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:04 last edited by@Renauda said in Hamas attacks Israel:
LD, you can’t reason with fanatics, they must be annihilated. A major part of the hydra is made up of fanatics, Islamic fanatics at that.
I don’t disagree. I just think that direction will have to go much farther than what I believe most westerners will ever accept.
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wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:11 last edited by
I would have no issue.
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wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:15 last edited by
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wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:39 last edited by
They can sleep on the rocks and drink seawater.
Renauda is right.
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wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:41 last edited by
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