Hamas attacks Israel
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@George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:
"The civilian evacuation "will be completed today," and then we'll turn it into a parking lot.
To be clear they’re evacuating Israeli citizens from those towns. Presumably they’ll leave the towns alone but want to make sure there aren’t civilians that close to the fighting.
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I wonder if they’re all dual citizens that reside there, or if there were some unlucky vacationers caught up in it.
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It will be interesting to see how this affects their culture war. Well, I don't suppose I'll know, because all culture war news is filtered by whomever is telling it. On this morning's shellshocked Bari Weiss podcast, her Israeli guest predicted the Bibi government "won't survive this". But it can't be lost on many that their left, anti-Bibi side was recently bragging about the members of the military who said they would refuse to show up for Bibi. I wonder what those members of the military are publicly saying now that shit got real.
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@Horace said in Hamas attacks Israel:
It will be interesting to see how this affects their culture war. Well, I don't suppose I'll know, because all culture war news is filtered by whomever is telling it. On this morning's shellshocked Bari Weiss podcast, her Israeli guest predicted the Bibi government "won't survive this". But it can't be lost on many that their left, anti-Bibi side was recently bragging about the members of the military who said they would refuse to show up for Bibi. I wonder what those members of the military are publicly saying now that shit got real.
I suspect it's either show up or the consequences will be very severe.
Do not let they alligator mouth overload they hummingbird ass. So to speak.
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The USS Gerald R. Ford the Navy’s newest and most advanced aircraft carrier, and its approximately 5,000 sailors and deck of warplanes will be accompanied by cruisers and destroyers in a show of force that is meant to be ready to respond to anything, from possibly interdicting additional weapons from reaching Hamas and conducting surveillance.
The large deployment, which also includes a host of ships and warplanes, underscores the concern that the United States has in trying to deter the conflict from growing. The Israeli government formally declared war Sunday and gave the green light for “significant military steps” to retaliate against Hamas. -
@jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:
My bad those dimensions are Gaza city not the whole strip. The strip is 4 Napervilles.
Still it’s narrow, between 6-12 km. With only 20k soldiers you could literally stand shoulder to shoulder across the strip at it’s widest point.
Yes, I was surprised at how small the land dimensions are of Gaza strip.
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Wow. They’re still fighting to take back their own land.
Israel’s military acknowledged on Monday that it was still battling to drive Palestinian militants out of southern towns near the Gaza Strip and that more militants could still be crossing through breaches in the border fence, two days after an invasion that has killed hundreds and provoked furious retaliatory strikes by Israel.
“We are still fighting,” Lt. Col. Richard Hecht of the Israel Defense Forces said at a briefing on Monday morning, offering an unusually blunt assessment of the military’s struggles to turn back the invasion that began on Saturday. “We thought by this morning we’d be in a better place.”
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Wow. 260 dead found at the music festival alone.
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IDF Spokes: 300k reservists have been called
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Israeli dead approaching 700.
Hamas claims over 130 hostages.
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Hamas has captured a bit of Israeli armor, mostly personnel carriers, but also a few tanks. I've also seen some drone footage where automated defense systems were taken out by Hamas drones, so I suspect they'll be using drones against Israeli targets (ala Ukraine) as Israel ramps up its offensive.
I suspect this is going to be a bloody little war.
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HuffPo's columnist.
Enjoy
Media Calls The Attack On Israel Unprovoked. Experts Say That’s Historically Inaccurate.
The attack has resulted in strongly worded support for Israel from many western nations, including the U.S., who along with the media are describing the violence as unprovoked and unprecedented. But experts on the region’s history, as well as groups supporting Palestinian liberation, say that description is false.
IfNotNow, a progressive American Jewish group that opposes Israeli apartheid, said that while “we watch the unfolding horrors with heartbreak and dread for our loved ones ― Israelis and Palestinians alike” ― the attack by Palestinian fighters was a result of decades of oppression.
“We cannot and will not say today’s actions by Palestinian militants are unprovoked,” the group said in a statement on Saturday. “Every day under Israel’s system of apartheid is a provocation. The strangling siege on Gaza is a provocation. Settlers terrorizing entire Palestinian villages, soldiers raiding and demolishing Palestinian homes, murdering Palestinians in the streets, Israeli ministers calling for genocide and expulsion.”
“These are the provocations of the most extreme right wing government in Israel’s history and an emboldened fascist movement escalating this crisis across the land.”