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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #1240

    It give Israel more support.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
      wrote on last edited by Renauda
      #1241

      Not support for Israel, but rather support for Netanyahu and his coalition.

      Bite me.

      Elbows up!

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        jon-nyc
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        #1242

        Sure. The mostly symbolic cautions and scolding from the Biden administration aren’t going to repeat under Trump. But they had little practical impact on the ability of Israel to wage war on Hamas.

        You were warned.

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        • RenaudaR Offline
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          Renauda
          wrote on last edited by Renauda
          #1243

          I call that a nibble. But I overall agree with what you wrote, symbolic cautions. Nary even a Yellow card.

          From here on the Referee looks the other way.

          Elbows up!

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          • kluursK Offline
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            kluurs
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            #1244

            I believe it was reported that Biden received more Israel PAC support than anyone in government. Blinken is a dual Israeli/US citizen. Trump has acknowledged that Miriam Adlelson gave $100M to his campaign for support of Israel - so Israel's interests, which were never in doubt, are solid.

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            • RenaudaR Renauda

              I call that a nibble. But I overall agree with what you wrote, symbolic cautions. Nary even a Yellow card.

              From here on the Referee looks the other way.

              MikM Away
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              Mik
              wrote on last edited by
              #1245

              @Renauda said in Hamas attacks Israel:

              I call that a nibble. But I overall agree with what you wrote, symbolic cautions. Nary even a Yellow card.

              From here on the Referee looks the other way.

              The referee was always looking the other way, he just didn't want anyone to notice. Didn't work.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • George KG George K

                “We are the closest to a hostage deal since the last agreement.”

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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #1246

                @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                “We are the closest to a hostage deal since the last agreement.”

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                https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-accuses-hamas-of-foiling-hostage-deal-with-return-to-inflexible-stance/

                Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office on Wednesday accused the Hamas terror group of lying about ongoing hostage-ceasefire negotiations and walking back terms it had agreed to, as renewed talks appeared to stall despite previous expressions of optimism by senior officials.

                “The terrorist organization Hamas is lying again,” the Prime Minister’s Office said in a statement, “reneging on the understandings already reached, and continuing to make it difficult for the negotiations.

                “Nevertheless, Israel will continue tirelessly in its efforts to bring home all of our hostages,” the statement added.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1247

                  You were warned.

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
                    jon-nycJ Online
                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                    #1248

                    Watch the video.

                    You were warned.

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                    • bachophileB Offline
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                      bachophile
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1249

                      everyone is just waiting to see what’s happening

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
                        jon-nycJ Online
                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1250

                        Another pov:

                        You were warned.

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1251

                          I had seen some reporting within Israel that Trump was pressuring the Israelis too, but the source was Qatari so I don’t know how seriously to take it. It then this…

                          You were warned.

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                          • JollyJ Offline
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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1252

                            I think Trump is pushing both parties, using carrots and sticks.

                            Next up, watch Iran. Some think we may try to shove the mullahs out of power, with a combination of new, strict financial sanctions and increased covert actions.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • bachophileB Offline
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                              bachophile
                              wrote on last edited by bachophile
                              #1253

                              The carrot Israel is getting is a green light for attacking Iran. That’s the thing that will drive bibi to risk his government to accept the deal.
                              Strange times

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                              • jon-nycJ Online
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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1254

                                That seems a given. Carrot probably more like help in doing it.

                                You were warned.

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                                • jon-nycJ Online
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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                  #1255

                                  Either it’s true or Israel wants cover to back out and blame them. Either way not a good sign.

                                  You were warned.

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                                  • bachophileB Offline
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                                    bachophile
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1256

                                    Now reporting the deal has been signed.

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                                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                      #1257

                                      Trump has already taken credit. Despite the fact that it’s more or less identical to the deal Israel walked away from in May. But maybe that’s where his leverage was applied.

                                      You were warned.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        Trump has already taken credit. Despite the fact that it’s more or less identical to the deal Israel walked away from in May. But maybe that’s where his leverage was applied.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1258

                                        @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                        But maybe that’s where his leverage was applied.

                                        That does seem to be the case. Trump closing the partisan divide with Biden left Bibi no choice. Here’s ambassador Oren:

                                        You were warned.

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                                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1259

                                          My guess is Bibi felt compelled but also figures Trump will have a low bar as to what constitutes a violation on the part of Hamas so it’ll be mere months before they can continue. In the mean time he gets some of the hostages back.

                                          You were warned.

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