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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by
    #1238

    How does Trump coming to power apply pressure to Israel?

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
      wrote on last edited by Renauda
      #1239

      It does not, not in the least. If anything it provides a green light to Netanyahu that he can do as he wishes, unfettered, anywhere, anytime, throughout the Middle East.

      Elbows up!

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        #1240

        It give Israel more support.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • RenaudaR Offline
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          Renauda
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          #1241

          Not support for Israel, but rather support for Netanyahu and his coalition.

          Bite me.

          Elbows up!

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            #1242

            Sure. The mostly symbolic cautions and scolding from the Biden administration aren’t going to repeat under Trump. But they had little practical impact on the ability of Israel to wage war on Hamas.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by Renauda
              #1243

              I call that a nibble. But I overall agree with what you wrote, symbolic cautions. Nary even a Yellow card.

              From here on the Referee looks the other way.

              Elbows up!

              MikM 1 Reply Last reply
              • kluursK Offline
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                #1244

                I believe it was reported that Biden received more Israel PAC support than anyone in government. Blinken is a dual Israeli/US citizen. Trump has acknowledged that Miriam Adlelson gave $100M to his campaign for support of Israel - so Israel's interests, which were never in doubt, are solid.

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                • RenaudaR Renauda

                  I call that a nibble. But I overall agree with what you wrote, symbolic cautions. Nary even a Yellow card.

                  From here on the Referee looks the other way.

                  MikM Offline
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                  Mik
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1245

                  @Renauda said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                  I call that a nibble. But I overall agree with what you wrote, symbolic cautions. Nary even a Yellow card.

                  From here on the Referee looks the other way.

                  The referee was always looking the other way, he just didn't want anyone to notice. Didn't work.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • George KG George K

                    “We are the closest to a hostage deal since the last agreement.”

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                    George K
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                    #1246

                    @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                    “We are the closest to a hostage deal since the last agreement.”

                    alt text

                    https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-accuses-hamas-of-foiling-hostage-deal-with-return-to-inflexible-stance/

                    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office on Wednesday accused the Hamas terror group of lying about ongoing hostage-ceasefire negotiations and walking back terms it had agreed to, as renewed talks appeared to stall despite previous expressions of optimism by senior officials.

                    “The terrorist organization Hamas is lying again,” the Prime Minister’s Office said in a statement, “reneging on the understandings already reached, and continuing to make it difficult for the negotiations.

                    “Nevertheless, Israel will continue tirelessly in its efforts to bring home all of our hostages,” the statement added.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1247

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                        #1248

                        Watch the video.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • bachophileB Offline
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                          bachophile
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                          #1249

                          everyone is just waiting to see what’s happening

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                          • jon-nycJ Offline
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                            jon-nyc
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                            #1250

                            Another pov:

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • jon-nycJ Offline
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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1251

                              I had seen some reporting within Israel that Trump was pressuring the Israelis too, but the source was Qatari so I don’t know how seriously to take it. It then this…

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • JollyJ Offline
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                                #1252

                                I think Trump is pushing both parties, using carrots and sticks.

                                Next up, watch Iran. Some think we may try to shove the mullahs out of power, with a combination of new, strict financial sanctions and increased covert actions.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • bachophileB Offline
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                                  bachophile
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                                  #1253

                                  The carrot Israel is getting is a green light for attacking Iran. That’s the thing that will drive bibi to risk his government to accept the deal.
                                  Strange times

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                                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    #1254

                                    That seems a given. Carrot probably more like help in doing it.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      #1255

                                      Either it’s true or Israel wants cover to back out and blame them. Either way not a good sign.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        bachophile
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                                        #1256

                                        Now reporting the deal has been signed.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                          #1257

                                          Trump has already taken credit. Despite the fact that it’s more or less identical to the deal Israel walked away from in May. But maybe that’s where his leverage was applied.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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