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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    #1224

    You can’t negotiate with a viper.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #1225

      https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/18/world/middleeast/gaza-aid-convoy-looted-unrwa-israel.html

      A large convoy of trucks carrying aid was “violently looted” in the Gaza Strip over the weekend and its drivers forced at gunpoint to unload supplies, the main United Nations agency that helps Palestinians said on Monday, calling it one of the worst such incidents of the war.

      The agency, known as UNRWA, said in a statement on Monday that the convoy of 109 trucks had been driving from the Kerem Shalom border crossing in southern Gaza when it was looted on Saturday. Most of the trucks were lost, some of the drivers were reportedly shot, and some vehicles sustained extensive damage, the agency said.

      Only 11 trucks made it to their destination, said Louise Wateridge, an UNRWA spokeswoman currently in Gaza. Attackers shot the trucks’ tires out in order to stop and loot some of the vehicles, she said, and the agency is still waiting to hear how many casualties there were, and what types of injuries convoy members sustained.

      The incident highlighted the difficulties aid workers face bringing aid into Gaza, despite months of attempts to help it arrive safely. The need is urgent. Earlier this month, a U.N.-backed panel said that all of Gaza faced a risk of famine between now and April, with the north at particular risk.

      “People at the moment are absolutely desperate for anything,” Ms. Wateridge said. “We’re back at a stage where we’re seeing people literally fighting over a bag of flour.”

      She said: “Israeli authorities continue to restrict a huge amount of the humanitarian response. Everything here is being strangled — food, flour, water — everything.”

      The Israeli military did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the episode. It was not clear who was responsible for the looting. In the past, Israel has accused Hamas militants of robbing aid convoys to supply their own forces. Hamas also did not respond to a request for comment.

      The convoy had been scheduled to enter Gaza on Sunday, but the Israeli military instructed it to leave a day earlier “at short notice via an alternate, unfamiliar route,” he U.N. agency said.

      Ms. Wateridge told The New York Times that her agency was instructed a day before the scheduled transport that the convoy had to leave within 30 minutes — a huge logistical risk for drivers, who had little mobile data access to plan for the new routes safely.

      "In the past Israel has accused..."

      Well, NYT, who was responsible for the looting? C'mon gimme a wild-assed guess. Is it just possible that it was someone whose organization starts with "H"? It took you 7 paragraphs to even say the word.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • bachophileB Offline
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        bachophile
        wrote on last edited by
        #1226

        Gaza reaches the NFL?

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
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          #1227

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #1228

            “We are the closest to a hostage deal since the last agreement.”

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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #1229

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • MikM Offline
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                wrote on last edited by
                #1230

                I wonder what Biden is giving away to get this. Or threatening to take away.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1231

                  Trump will take credit regardless.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
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                    #1232

                    It’s quite possible he deserves it.

                    The Brad

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                      #1233

                      That’s a bit of a stretch.

                      So, if the deal falls through, will he deserve the blame?

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • CopperC Offline
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                        Copper
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                        #1234

                        I can't imagine Mr. Trump being blamed for something he didn't do.

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          That’s a bit of a stretch.

                          So, if the deal falls through, will he deserve the blame?

                          LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1235

                          @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                          That’s a bit of a stretch.

                          So, if the deal falls through, will he deserve the blame?

                          You don’t think that the weight of a Trump administration coming to power applies a little pressure?

                          The Brad

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                          • jon-nycJ Offline
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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1236

                            To Iran? Sure. To Hamas? They’re already under maximum pressure

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              To Iran? Sure. To Hamas? They’re already under maximum pressure

                              LuFins DadL Offline
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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on last edited by
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                              @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                              To Iran? Sure. To Hamas? They’re already under maximum pressure

                              And Israel?

                              The Brad

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                              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                jon-nyc
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                                #1238

                                How does Trump coming to power apply pressure to Israel?

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • RenaudaR Offline
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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                  #1239

                                  It does not, not in the least. If anything it provides a green light to Netanyahu that he can do as he wishes, unfettered, anywhere, anytime, throughout the Middle East.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • JollyJ Offline
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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1240

                                    It give Israel more support.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • RenaudaR Offline
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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                      #1241

                                      Not support for Israel, but rather support for Netanyahu and his coalition.

                                      Bite me.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1242

                                        Sure. The mostly symbolic cautions and scolding from the Biden administration aren’t going to repeat under Trump. But they had little practical impact on the ability of Israel to wage war on Hamas.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • RenaudaR Offline
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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                          #1243

                                          I call that a nibble. But I overall agree with what you wrote, symbolic cautions. Nary even a Yellow card.

                                          From here on the Referee looks the other way.

                                          Elbows up!

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