Hamas attacks Israel
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Actually the editorializing in the Israeli press today is that, had Netanyahu not insisted on controlling the Philadelphi corridor, they would have been released in the deal that fell apart last month.
I can’t weigh in on that question but I can say that tying this to Biden seems a little desperate. Maybe even disrespectful.
wrote on 1 Sept 2024, 12:12 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:
Maybe even disrespectful.
At least I didn't call for him to be caged.
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wrote on 1 Sept 2024, 12:19 last edited by jon-nyc 9 Jan 2024, 12:22
Not disrespectful to Biden. But maybe when we learn that six young hostages were murdered our response shouldn’t be ‘how can we use this for our political advantage?’
(Not accusing you of the latter, but the website you lifted it from)
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Actually the editorializing in the Israeli press today is that, had Netanyahu not insisted on controlling the Philadelphi corridor, they would have been released in the deal that fell apart last month.
I can’t weigh in on that question but I can say that tying this to Biden seems a little desperate. Maybe even disrespectful.
wrote on 1 Sept 2024, 20:28 last edited by jon-nyc 9 Jan 2024, 20:30@jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:
Actually the editorializing in the Israeli press today is that, had Netanyahu not insisted on controlling the Philadelphi corridor, they would have been released in the deal that fell apart last month.
“We are getting body bags instead of a deal”
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-hostages-war-gaza-news-09-01-24/index.html
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I don't think that's all about him. I think a lot of the American public think...
- Biden screwed the pooch on the Afghanistan withdrawal.
- Hamas attacked Israel because they had the weapons, infrastructure and intelligence to do so. A lot of that was because Biden freed up a lot of Iranian money.
- Biden has also obviously been going downhill for awhile. Many think Hamas chose this point in his presidency because of his limited faculties and an apparent waning support for Israel.
- A lot of people wonder who is running the country. From the Dem convention, to pictures of Biden sleeping on the beach, to Kamala-lama-ding-dong's campaign trips, who is in the Whitehouse?
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wrote on 1 Sept 2024, 22:37 last edited by
I haven't followed the negotiations closely.
What is Israel demanding? what is Hamas refusing?
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@jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:
The Fat Guy makes it all about him.
No, he made it all about Border Czar, Last Person in the Room, Vice President Harris and Joe “Put a Lid on the Day” Biden.
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wrote on 3 Sept 2024, 17:32 last edited by
He made it all about his campaign.
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@jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:
He made it all about his campaign.
He didn’t talk about his campaign at all, just their incompetence.
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wrote on 3 Sept 2024, 18:39 last edited by
He wasn’t talking about his campaign, he was acting it out. AKA campaigning.
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wrote on 3 Sept 2024, 18:40 last edited by
Seems like waiting until shiva was over before exploiting their deaths for political purposes could be a norm.
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wrote on 3 Sept 2024, 18:46 last edited by
Political Campaigning Norms are so 1996.
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wrote on 4 Sept 2024, 07:38 last edited by
https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1366141/dl
well obviously im not gonna read the whole thing, but i liked this line...
"at least one of whom is expected to be first brought to and arrested in the Southern District of New York,"
as if Sinwar is going to wander out of the chambers street subway station near city hall in NY, and be arrested and dragged into the US District Court.
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https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1366141/dl
well obviously im not gonna read the whole thing, but i liked this line...
"at least one of whom is expected to be first brought to and arrested in the Southern District of New York,"
as if Sinwar is going to wander out of the chambers street subway station near city hall in NY, and be arrested and dragged into the US District Court.
wrote on 4 Sept 2024, 13:29 last edited by@bachophile said in Hamas attacks Israel:
as if Sinwar is going to wander out of the chambers street subway station near city hall in NY, and be arrested and dragged into the US District Court.
From the RWEC:
I bet this has Yahya Sinwar shaking in his boots:
Federal prosecutors charged Yahya Sinwar, the leader of Hamas, and five senior members of the group with planning and carrying out years of terrorist attacks in Israel, including the Oct. 7 massacre, according to a sweeping complaint unsealed on Tuesday.
The criminal complaint, originally filed in New York in February, implicated two other senior members of Hamas not previously thought to be directly involved in the attacks. It also listed the number of Americans believed to have died at 43.
The other leaders named are Ismail Haniyeh, who had overseen Hamas’s political office in Qatar; Muhammad Deif, the commander of the group’s military wing; Marwan Issa, the deputy commander of the group’s military wing; Ali Barakeh, a senior Hamas official based in Beirut; and Khaled Meshal, a former political leader of the group who remains a top official. Mr. Deif and Mr. Issa were killed in Israeli airstrikes during the fighting in Gaza. Mr. Haniyeh, a top negotiator in cease-fire talks, was assassinated in Iran after a bomb was covertly smuggled into the guesthouse where he was staying.
Perhaps no cinematic parallel explains this better than this one from 1984's Ghostbusters. Call it the Ray Stantz Method:
Link to videoThat oughta do it. Thanks very much, Merrick.
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I cannot disagree with Murray on this subject. The problem is with Hamas.
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@Renauda said in Hamas attacks Israel:
I cannot disagree with Murray on this subject. The problem is with Hamas.
That's why I asked (earlier) about the negotiations. What is Hamas demanding and what is Israel offering?