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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    They were in fact killed as Israeli forces were entering the area.

    Not to blame Israel for their deaths but this is hardly evidence that Biden’s advice was bad.

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    George K
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    @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

    this is hardly evidence that Biden’s advice was bad.

    Fair enough.

    Do you think they'd have been released if his advice had been followed? Something tells me...no.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      #1168

      Actually the editorializing in the Israeli press today is that, had Netanyahu not insisted on controlling the Philadelphi corridor, they would have been released in the deal that fell apart last month.

      I can’t weigh in on that question but I can say that tying this to Biden seems a little desperate. Maybe even disrespectful.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Actually the editorializing in the Israeli press today is that, had Netanyahu not insisted on controlling the Philadelphi corridor, they would have been released in the deal that fell apart last month.

        I can’t weigh in on that question but I can say that tying this to Biden seems a little desperate. Maybe even disrespectful.

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        #1169

        @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

        Maybe even disrespectful.

        At least I didn't call for him to be caged.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          #1170

          Not disrespectful to Biden. But maybe when we learn that six young hostages were murdered our response shouldn’t be ‘how can we use this for our political advantage?’

          (Not accusing you of the latter, but the website you lifted it from)

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Actually the editorializing in the Israeli press today is that, had Netanyahu not insisted on controlling the Philadelphi corridor, they would have been released in the deal that fell apart last month.

            I can’t weigh in on that question but I can say that tying this to Biden seems a little desperate. Maybe even disrespectful.

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            #1171

            @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

            Actually the editorializing in the Israeli press today is that, had Netanyahu not insisted on controlling the Philadelphi corridor, they would have been released in the deal that fell apart last month.

            “We are getting body bags instead of a deal”

            IMG_9810.jpeg

            https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-hostages-war-gaza-news-09-01-24/index.html

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              #1172

              The Fat Guy makes it all about him.

              IMG_9811.jpeg

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                #1173

                More photos from tonight’s protest.

                IMG_9816.jpeg

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                  #1174

                  I don't think that's all about him. I think a lot of the American public think...

                  1. Biden screwed the pooch on the Afghanistan withdrawal.
                  2. Hamas attacked Israel because they had the weapons, infrastructure and intelligence to do so. A lot of that was because Biden freed up a lot of Iranian money.
                  3. Biden has also obviously been going downhill for awhile. Many think Hamas chose this point in his presidency because of his limited faculties and an apparent waning support for Israel.
                  4. A lot of people wonder who is running the country. From the Dem convention, to pictures of Biden sleeping on the beach, to Kamala-lama-ding-dong's campaign trips, who is in the Whitehouse?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    I haven't followed the negotiations closely.

                    What is Israel demanding? what is Hamas refusing?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      #1176

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        #1177

                        Wow.

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                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          The Fat Guy makes it all about him.

                          IMG_9811.jpeg

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                          @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                          The Fat Guy makes it all about him.

                          IMG_9811.jpeg

                          No, he made it all about Border Czar, Last Person in the Room, Vice President Harris and Joe “Put a Lid on the Day” Biden.

                          The Brad

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                            He made it all about his campaign.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              He made it all about his campaign.

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                              @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                              He made it all about his campaign.

                              He didn’t talk about his campaign at all, just their incompetence.

                              The Brad

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                                #1181

                                He wasn’t talking about his campaign, he was acting it out. AKA campaigning.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  #1182

                                  Seems like waiting until shiva was over before exploiting their deaths for political purposes could be a norm.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    Political Campaigning Norms are so 1996.

                                    The Brad

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                                      https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1366141/dl

                                      well obviously im not gonna read the whole thing, but i liked this line...

                                      "at least one of whom is expected to be first brought to and arrested in the Southern District of New York,"

                                      as if Sinwar is going to wander out of the chambers street subway station near city hall in NY, and be arrested and dragged into the US District Court.

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                                      • bachophileB bachophile

                                        https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1366141/dl

                                        well obviously im not gonna read the whole thing, but i liked this line...

                                        "at least one of whom is expected to be first brought to and arrested in the Southern District of New York,"

                                        as if Sinwar is going to wander out of the chambers street subway station near city hall in NY, and be arrested and dragged into the US District Court.

                                        George KG Offline
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                                        @bachophile said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                        as if Sinwar is going to wander out of the chambers street subway station near city hall in NY, and be arrested and dragged into the US District Court.

                                        From the RWEC:


                                        I bet this has Yahya Sinwar shaking in his boots:

                                        Federal prosecutors charged Yahya Sinwar, the leader of Hamas, and five senior members of the group with planning and carrying out years of terrorist attacks in Israel, including the Oct. 7 massacre, according to a sweeping complaint unsealed on Tuesday.

                                        The criminal complaint, originally filed in New York in February, implicated two other senior members of Hamas not previously thought to be directly involved in the attacks. It also listed the number of Americans believed to have died at 43.

                                        The other leaders named are Ismail Haniyeh, who had overseen Hamas’s political office in Qatar; Muhammad Deif, the commander of the group’s military wing; Marwan Issa, the deputy commander of the group’s military wing; Ali Barakeh, a senior Hamas official based in Beirut; and Khaled Meshal, a former political leader of the group who remains a top official. Mr. Deif and Mr. Issa were killed in Israeli airstrikes during the fighting in Gaza. Mr. Haniyeh, a top negotiator in cease-fire talks, was assassinated in Iran after a bomb was covertly smuggled into the guesthouse where he was staying.

                                        Perhaps no cinematic parallel explains this better than this one from 1984's Ghostbusters. Call it the Ray Stantz Method:

                                        Link to video

                                        That oughta do it. Thanks very much, Merrick.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Piers Morgan pushes for compromise.

                                          Douglas Murray pushes back.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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