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  • J jon-nyc
    10 Jun 2024, 21:33

    Helmet cam footage of hostage rescue.

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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on 11 Jun 2024, 09:25 last edited by
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    @jon-nyc Wow!!! Quite intense!!!

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      George K
      wrote on 11 Jun 2024, 12:55 last edited by
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      Gaza civilian deaths in Israel's hostage raid may be war crimes, UN says

      The U.N. human rights office said on Tuesday the killings of civilians in Gaza during the Israeli operation to free four hostages, as well as Palestinian armed groups' holding of captives in densely populated areas, could amount to war crimes.

      Israel said the operation, accompanied by an air assault, took place on Saturday in the heart of a residential neighbourhood in central Gaza's Nuseirat area where Hamas had kept the hostages in two separate apartment blocks.

      The operation killed more than 270 Palestinians, according to Gazan health officials.

      "The manner in which the raid was conducted in such a densely populated area seriously calls into question whether the principles of distinction, proportionality and precaution - as set out under the laws of war - were respected by the Israeli forces," Jeremy Laurence, spokesperson for the U.N. human rights office, said.

      Laurence added that the holding of hostages in such densely populated areas by Palestinian armed groups was "putting the lives of Palestinian civilians, as well as the hostages themselves, at added risk from the hostilities."

      "All these actions, by both parties, may amount to war crimes," he said.

      Funny, no mention of war crimes such as rape, torture, DELIBERATE killing of civilians, including children 8 months ago. And a passing mention of keeping hostages in civilian locations.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        bachophile
        wrote on 11 Jun 2024, 14:02 last edited by
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        The UN can kiss my butt

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          George K
          wrote on 11 Jun 2024, 14:45 last edited by
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          Jesus Christ on a stick...

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          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Copper
            wrote on 11 Jun 2024, 15:01 last edited by
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            Defund the UN.

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            • G George K
              10 Jun 2024, 13:05

              WSJ:

              Blaming Israel for Rescuing Its People

              Hamas hid four hostages in a crowded civilian area and fired on rescuers.

              The Editorial BoardJune 9, 2024 at 2:43 pm

              It’s rare good news in a grinding war. On Saturday Israeli commandos rescued four hostages from two civilian buildings near the heart of Gaza’s Nuseirat market. It was a high-risk but well-planned and -executed mission that is a morale boost for Israelis.

              Noa Argamani, age 26, Almog Meir Jan, 21, Andrey Kozlov, 27, and Shlomi Ziv, 40, were all abducted during the music-festival massacre. A video showed Ms. Argamani begging for her life. Eight months later she heard a knock on the door: “It’s the IDF, we’ve come to rescue you.” She can now visit her terminally ill mother. Mr. Jan was mobbed on his return by friends chanting, “He is one of us, and we will never give him up,” a refrain of sports teammates now given new meaning. Mr. Jan’s father died hours before his son’s return.

              The non-surprise is that professional anti-Israel voices, United Nations officials and the European Union foreign-policy chief rushed to attack Israel. Egypt condemned the operation “in the strongest terms.” How dare Israel rescue its own citizens. Didn’t it know there would be casualties? The BBC asked whether Israel gave a warning that the rescue raid was coming. Seriously? A tip-off to terrorists? Perhaps read them Miranda rights too.

              “BREAKING: Gaza’s Health Ministry says 274 Palestinians were killed during the Israeli operation,” reports the Associated Press, only 48 hours after it had exposed how the Hamas ministry’s daily death tolls are “at odds with underlying data.” When will the media stop taking the kidnappers at their word?

              Haters of Israel will blame it and excuse Hamas every time, and the media are easily manipulated into playing along. The Hamas figure is likely inflated, and it includes the terrorists killed trying to stop the rescue as well as those who hid the hostages.

              Hamas started the war with a massacre, took these hostages and hid them in a crowded civilian area. Then, when Israel came to free them, Hamas responded with heavy fire, including RPGs—yet people are condemning Israel. It makes us wonder if the West has lost the moral discernment and instinct for self-preservation needed to defend itself in a world of killers. Hamas could not survive if not for its enablers around the world.

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              Mik
              wrote on 11 Jun 2024, 15:04 last edited by
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              @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

              It makes us wonder if the West has lost the moral discernment and instinct for self-preservation needed to defend itself in a world of killers. Hamas could not survive if not for its enablers around the world.

              That's the headline, right there.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • G George K
                11 Jun 2024, 14:45

                Jesus Christ on a stick...

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 11 Jun 2024, 15:32 last edited by
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                @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                Jesus Christ on a stick...

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                No, technically it was the Romans that did that. And even then, it was ultimately God’s Will and any nation or people would have done the same.

                The Brad

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 11 Jun 2024, 16:03 last edited by
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                  https://babylonbee.com/news/heres-how-12-different-news-outlets-covered-israels-hostage-rescue

                  Everyone knows that the media is either fake and biased or completely 100% factual and correct, depending on how your political orientation lines up with any given news source.

                  With that in mind, The Babylon Bee conducted an investigation into how different media outlets covered Israel's hostage rescue operation:

                  The Babylon Bee: Breaking: Gaza Health Ministry Confirms 8 Billion Dead In Israeli Hostage Rescue

                  New York Times: Breaking: Gaza Health Ministry Confirms 8 Billion Dead In Israeli Hostage Rescue

                  CNN: GENOCIDE: Israel Mass Murders More Palestinian Citizens Also Please Pay Attention To Us We're Broke

                  Rolling Stone: Palestinians Recount Horror Of Living With 4 Jews For 247 Days

                  NotTheBee: Israel Just Pulled Off One Of The Most EPIC Rescues In History And Libz Are Big Mad. Let Me Break It Down For You. 🤣🤣🤣

                  BBC News: Israel Genocidally Commits Genocide By Shooting Back At Innocent Civilian People Shooting At Them In Horrible Genocide

                  Buzzfeed: Check Out These 32 Recipes From Child-Free Trans Women That You Need In Your Life

                  Deadspin: Here's a Video of a Racist Israeli Hostage in Blackface Oh Wait Those Are Ashes From His Friend's Incinerated Body And Oops We Just Lost Another $500 Million Defamation Lawsuit

                  Washington Post: Hi, I'm Raul, The Janitor, Nobody Here Today

                  HuffPost: Israel Brutally Murders Civilians Innocently Holding AK-47s, Hostages

                  TMZ: POOLSIDE PICS! You'll Never Believe How These Seven Celebs Responded to Israel's Slaughter of Innocent Palestinians

                  Al Jazeera: Wait! Don't Shoot! I Can Exp —

                  The Brad

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                  • L LuFins Dad
                    11 Jun 2024, 16:03

                    https://babylonbee.com/news/heres-how-12-different-news-outlets-covered-israels-hostage-rescue

                    Everyone knows that the media is either fake and biased or completely 100% factual and correct, depending on how your political orientation lines up with any given news source.

                    With that in mind, The Babylon Bee conducted an investigation into how different media outlets covered Israel's hostage rescue operation:

                    The Babylon Bee: Breaking: Gaza Health Ministry Confirms 8 Billion Dead In Israeli Hostage Rescue

                    New York Times: Breaking: Gaza Health Ministry Confirms 8 Billion Dead In Israeli Hostage Rescue

                    CNN: GENOCIDE: Israel Mass Murders More Palestinian Citizens Also Please Pay Attention To Us We're Broke

                    Rolling Stone: Palestinians Recount Horror Of Living With 4 Jews For 247 Days

                    NotTheBee: Israel Just Pulled Off One Of The Most EPIC Rescues In History And Libz Are Big Mad. Let Me Break It Down For You. 🤣🤣🤣

                    BBC News: Israel Genocidally Commits Genocide By Shooting Back At Innocent Civilian People Shooting At Them In Horrible Genocide

                    Buzzfeed: Check Out These 32 Recipes From Child-Free Trans Women That You Need In Your Life

                    Deadspin: Here's a Video of a Racist Israeli Hostage in Blackface Oh Wait Those Are Ashes From His Friend's Incinerated Body And Oops We Just Lost Another $500 Million Defamation Lawsuit

                    Washington Post: Hi, I'm Raul, The Janitor, Nobody Here Today

                    HuffPost: Israel Brutally Murders Civilians Innocently Holding AK-47s, Hostages

                    TMZ: POOLSIDE PICS! You'll Never Believe How These Seven Celebs Responded to Israel's Slaughter of Innocent Palestinians

                    Al Jazeera: Wait! Don't Shoot! I Can Exp —

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 11 Jun 2024, 17:01 last edited by
                    #1093

                    @LuFins-Dad Raul 😆😆😉😆😆

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • M Mik
                      11 Jun 2024, 17:01

                      @LuFins-Dad Raul 😆😆😉😆😆

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 11 Jun 2024, 17:33 last edited by
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                      @Mik said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                      @LuFins-Dad Raul 😆😆😉😆😆

                      I liked the Rolling Stone headline.

                      The Brad

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                      • RenaudaR Renauda
                        9 Jun 2024, 18:30

                        Civilians, they say. Perhaps they were but all the same, a just end to Hamas collaborators. Sorry to hear that Hamas again used children as human shields. But as the saying goes, when you chop wood, chips fly.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 15 Jun 2024, 12:52 last edited by
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                        @Renauda said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                        Civilians, they say. Perhaps they were but all the same, a just end to Hamas collaborators.

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                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 15 Jun 2024, 23:12 last edited by
                          #1096

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 17 Jun 2024, 13:06 last edited by
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                            What's this all about?

                            https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/17/middleeast/netanyahu-disbands-israeli-war-cabinet-intl/index.html

                            Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has dissolved his war cabinet, an Israeli official told CNN Monday, just over a week after opposition leader Benny Gantz withdrew from the body.

                            Decision-making will now move back to the government’s main security cabinet, the Israeli official said, claiming Netanyahu “will hold smaller forums on sensitive matters.”

                            The war cabinet, set up five days after the Hamas-led terrorist attacks against Israel on October 7, had five members: Netanyahu, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, opposition leader Benny Gantz, and two “observers,” Ron Dermer and Gadi Eisenkot.

                            But Gantz – seen as Netanyahu’s most formidable political opponent – announced his “complex and painful” decision to withdraw from the cabinet last week, citing Netanyahu’s failure to devise a strategy for the conflict in Gaza and the future governance of the Strip.

                            “Netanyahu prevents us from moving forward to a real victory [in Gaza],” Gantz said June 9.

                            He accused Netanyahu of putting his own personal political considerations ahead of a post-war strategy for the Gaza Strip, claiming that “fateful strategic decisions are met with hesitancy and procrastination due to political considerations,” and urged the prime minister to hold an election in the coming months.

                            “I call on Netanyahu: set an agreed election date. Do not let our people be torn apart,” Gantz said.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • G George K
                              17 Jun 2024, 13:06

                              What's this all about?

                              https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/17/middleeast/netanyahu-disbands-israeli-war-cabinet-intl/index.html

                              Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has dissolved his war cabinet, an Israeli official told CNN Monday, just over a week after opposition leader Benny Gantz withdrew from the body.

                              Decision-making will now move back to the government’s main security cabinet, the Israeli official said, claiming Netanyahu “will hold smaller forums on sensitive matters.”

                              The war cabinet, set up five days after the Hamas-led terrorist attacks against Israel on October 7, had five members: Netanyahu, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, opposition leader Benny Gantz, and two “observers,” Ron Dermer and Gadi Eisenkot.

                              But Gantz – seen as Netanyahu’s most formidable political opponent – announced his “complex and painful” decision to withdraw from the cabinet last week, citing Netanyahu’s failure to devise a strategy for the conflict in Gaza and the future governance of the Strip.

                              “Netanyahu prevents us from moving forward to a real victory [in Gaza],” Gantz said June 9.

                              He accused Netanyahu of putting his own personal political considerations ahead of a post-war strategy for the Gaza Strip, claiming that “fateful strategic decisions are met with hesitancy and procrastination due to political considerations,” and urged the prime minister to hold an election in the coming months.

                              “I call on Netanyahu: set an agreed election date. Do not let our people be torn apart,” Gantz said.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 17 Jun 2024, 15:36 last edited by
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                              @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                              What's this all about?

                              https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/31416/two-questions-for-bachophile?_=1718638427594

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                Axtremus
                                wrote on 23 Jun 2024, 10:05 last edited by
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                                https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/palestinians-reel-repeated-strikes-humanitarian-zones-rcna158126

                                Palestinians reel from repeated strikes on 'humanitarian zones'

                                Witnesses interviewed by NBC News’ crew in Gaza after the attack on Wednesday said shots were fired from an aircraft into the camp between 12:30 a.m and 1:00 a.m. Then, about five minutes later, came a missile or bomb, which sent shrapnel scattering and ignited fires in the camp.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 21:12 last edited by
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                                  I was talking to D4 about all this today. She is clueless, of course.

                                  Is there a reliable, fairly honest place where I can send her to - video would be great.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 21:24 last edited by
                                    #1101

                                    Here?

                                    The Brad

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 21:27 last edited by
                                      #1102

                                      You know what? We can’t keep rehashing the same old grievances. There was a peace accord. An agreement between Hamas/Gaza and Israel was in place in September of last year. Start from there. Nothing before then is relevant.

                                      The Brad

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                                        kluurs
                                        wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 21:32 last edited by
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                                        Link to video

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 12 Jul 2024, 21:34 last edited by
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                                          Is there a birth defect causing all these weird pouty lips on girls?

                                          The Brad

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